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Subject: "Best" starting fleet - 25VP rss

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David in Sydney (now in Coffs)
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G'day all,

IMO the "best" starting fleet in a 25VP game (not using action card pool) is:

US
O.H. Perry 3VP - row 1
W.H. Stanley 3VP - row 2
Donald Cook 7VP - row 3
Enterprise 12VP - row 3

Card draw will deliver at least* 7VP for reinforcement, a must have is:
La Salle 5VP - row 3
leaving at least 2 cards for attacks or additional re-inforcement.
*on average expect (7 x 1.3 = 9.1 VP per hand of 7 cards)

As you can see from the above - all except the La Salle can make ASW attacks without need for action cards, or if the enemy(ies) lack submarines then apart from any cards available to play teh enterprise may make two Air Strike (@4s).

When it comes to defense you will have a hand of 8 action cards (La Salle CC1), plus 3 AD-3 and an AD-6. If playing with Air Strike Row Defense and you have significantly degraded enemy Submarine/CM threats then your ships in row three should be relatively safe.

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It's a very offensive fleet that can deal out a lot of damage, but I wonder how well it would be able to sustain damage from basic gun and missile attacks?

I think a large fleet of 3 or 4 point gun/missile ships would do well against it.
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True - the US fleets vunerability is mainly* the ships in row 1 and 2, hence the ships deployed there are ablative in nature for at least the first turn. In future turns there would be occasions when you would want to (or must) deploy more valuable (VP) ships in those rows, the plan being that when you chose to do so the damage that is inflicted will hopefully minimise the enemies response.

This asset management and tactical decision process are a great strength of the historical simulation component of MNB-GW.**

*the submarine/aircraft and Cruise Missile threat still exists for row 3 ships - which is a very good feature of MNB-GW, the above US fleet tries to mitigate that threat.
** at one stage we tried some house rules that reduced the effectiveness of gun combat - thankfully we gave up on those house rules and reverted to rules as written!
 
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A more defensive variant is:
US
O.H. Perry 3VP - row 1
W.H. Stanley 3VP - row 2
Donald Cook 7VP - row 3
Ticonderoga 7VP - row 3
La Salle 5VP - row 3

This gives more intrinsic air defense (4@3 & 1@6) plus Command Capacity's additional card (~14% better attack/defense) from deployment.

It lacks the offensive capacity (bombing/ASW) of the Enterprise, but has from the start 2 cruise missile mounts and of course the better Air Defense and increased hand of cards.

As in the original the ships in row 1 and 2 are generally ablative.

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With the limitted view of what is to come in the expansion set - if command capacity "stacks" (adds) then how would you rate the following fleet:

US
O.H. Perry 3VP - row 1
W.H. Stanley 3VP - row 2
Donald Cook 7VP - row 3
Blue Ridge 7VP - row 3
La Salle 5VP - row 3

This gives less intrinsic air defense (2@3 & 1@6) plus 3 (2+1) Command Capacity's additional card (~42% better attack/defense) from deployment.

It lacks the offensive capacity (bombing/ASW) of the Enterprise, but has from the start 1 cruise missile mounts and of course the better Air Defense and increased hand of cards.

As in the original the ships in row 1 and 2 are generally ablative.

First turn reinforcement could be 10 cards worth of ships - on average that would be 14 VP, so first turn could re-inforce with Enterprise and have two cards for attack plus instrinsic ASW/Bombers.

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Now with the expansion set - as it appears that command capacity "stacks" (adds) then here is IMO the BEST starting fleet for 25VP games without action pools:

US
W.H. Stanley 3VP - row 1 (MdG/SSM/ASW & AD-6!)
Leahy 3VP - row 2 (better than O.H. Perry as it has AD-6)
Donald Cook 7VP - row 3
La Salle 5VP - row 3
Blue Ridge 7VP - row 3

Play it as the above.

Can you do better?

 
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