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A quick question:

When selling in a two-player game, your bid must be compared with the Oil Baron's licenses.

Nothing is mentioned in the rules if your bid matches the Baron's bid.

Do you get to sell or not ?


Thanks in advance


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Moviebuffs wrote:
A quick question:

When selling in a two-player game, your bid must be compared with the Oil Baron's licenses.

Nothing is mentioned in the rules if your bid matches the Baron's bid.

Do you get to sell or not ?


No you do not. There is no provision for ties in any of the auctions in this game (AFAIK).

When playing the 2-player version; you must bid until your opponent passes, then you have one last option to hold or raise your bid in a blind bid against the Oil Baron. Win or Lose with Ties counting as a Loss.

The "Greedy Oil Baron" optional variant removes the blind bid in favor of a revealed total bid that the player can choose to beat. If the Oil Baron loses, the face up cards are added to the next bid, making winning that much more expensive.
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epilgrim wrote:
No you do not. There is no provision for ties in any of the auctions in this game (AFAIK).


Having reread the rules (where it says you need to try and "beat" the Oil Baron), we played that you had to beat it.

So if the Baron had four cards, a bid of 9 guaranteed selling, whereas a bid of 7 was a bit of a gamble ...

You can't get other ties, as it's a "round the table" auction, but that "reveal" of the cards should really have been mentioned in the rules. (I think it says "if the Baron is higher, do this .... or if you are higher, do this)



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This was the only rules issue we ran into tonight. My wife and I played it like blackjack at a casino. If its a push, the house wins.
 
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How is the 2-player game?
 
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How is the 2-player game?


We really enjoyed it.

Obviously, it felt like the multi-player game would be tougher and a little more involved, but the little 2-player variant works quite nicely.

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Uh-oh,

Reading the previous posts - I'm wondering if we did something wrong. If there was a tie in a two player game against the Oil Baron, is it in fact a loss and the both bidders (player and Oil Baron) lose the bidding cards?

Also, if it is a war between 2 players and one gets caught bluffing, do you really get to see the all of the opponent's cards and choose half of them to discard. This would seem like a horrible advantage of knowing how many cards an opponent has. Something tells me we are doing something wrong here...
 
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ggiersch wrote:
Uh-oh,

Reading the previous posts - I'm wondering if we did something wrong. If there was a tie in a two player game against the Oil Baron, is it in fact a loss and the both bidders (player and Oil Baron) lose the bidding cards?


Well, we were playing the "simple" 2-player game, not the "greedy" variant. So it really makes no difference if you discard the Baron's cards, as they go at the end of each round anyway.


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Also, if it is a war between 2 players and one gets caught bluffing, do you really get to see the all of the opponent's cards and choose half of them to discard. This would seem like a horrible advantage of knowing how many cards an opponent has. Something tells me we are doing something wrong here...


No ... choose half (rounded up) at random.



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Moviebuffs wrote:
A quick question:

When selling in a two-player game, your bid must be compared with the Oil Baron's licenses.

Nothing is mentioned in the rules if your bid matches the Baron's bid.

Do you get to sell or not ?


Thanks in advance :)


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Could we please get an official ruling on this? The rulebook says that if the oil baron has the high bid, he wins. And if the player has the high bid, he wins. There has to be a winner, so what happens in the event of a tie? Thanks.
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Quick Question; The rule book says that the baron in a two player game gets "the number of Licenses shown on the unchosen card to both oil companies".

The unchosen card shows 3 license cards and I read that to say that you dole out three cards to each company (so 3 to Houston, 3 to Jet).

My bud says he thinks its a total of 3 cards total, and that they are divided up between both companies (so 2 to one company, 1 to the other).

Who is right here?
 
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