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I am not sure if this hasn't been posted already, but what do you guys think of this?





 
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I play Small World and Neuroshima Hex on iPad a lot, usually when waiting at restaurants.

I play the cardboard as well, when at home.

Each has its place.

Mixing board and digital is a gimmick which has been tried numerous times in the past, from Oil Barons to Ex illis and others.

The mixed media does not make the game good, and in fact really limits it.
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That's cool, until the battery in the iPad goes, or it errors and you lose your entire game's progress (unless it has some sort of auto-save feature). Or when you're on vacation and there's no way to charge the thing.

Oh, and don't forget when they put out a new iPad and they update the app such that you have to update your OS as well, or your iPad model. Don't forget content control and things like that will be there. "Sorry, only four specific people are licensed to play. Are they in the room?"

Ok I'm going overboard, but the point is whenever electronics and board games mix, a lot can go wrong and a lot can flop.
 
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That's cool, until the battery in the iPad goes, or it errors and you lose your entire game's progress (unless it has some sort of auto-save feature). Or when you're on vacation and there's no way to charge the thing.

Oh, and don't forget when they put out a new iPad and they update the app such that you have to update your OS as well, or your iPad model. Don't forget content control and things like that will be there. "Sorry, only four specific people are licensed to play. Are they in the room?"

Ok I'm going overboard, but the point is whenever electronics and board games mix, a lot can go wrong and a lot can flop.


iPad lasts hours without a charger, I doubt a game session will outlast an iPad's battery life unless you're playing for more than 6 hours and in this case you guys really need a break anyway.

Also, nothing prevents you from charging the iPad on the board whenever necessary. Just plug the wire from any USB ports or Powercords (can charge from computer/laptop or just power cable). It hardly interrupts the flow of the game it's just a piece of cable for goodness' sake

Updating the application is a plus not a negative. Say they changed the rules then you'd find them applied instantly instead of reading errate or buying the new rules with the corrected cards/chits. With a tablet support your update is instantaneous. Also, expansions/updates will be easy to achieve to prolong the game's life. I can't see how updates are ever a negative. You don't need an OS update ever ever ever when you update an application. Complex games like MMORPG don't require OS upgrades when they patch content let alone a simple little application for a board game. I played MMORPGs for 12+ years now and I've never patched once and then required to update my OS, ever.

And yes you are going overboard with the "Sorry, only four specific people are licensed to play. Are they in the room?" now I think you're Trolling and I guess you got me

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Geosphere wrote:
Mixing board and digital is a gimmick which has been tried numerous times in the past, from Oil Barons to Ex illis and others.

The mixed media does not make the game good, and in fact really limits it.

Sure, but should people stop trying? Perhaps one of these gimmicks will stick some day if the game is good enough? And often, limitations spur creativity.

Certainly a neat concept. I find myself pitying that they boards on either side are "hard coded" to whatever app they've got playing. Makes me think there could be some kind of more generic DIY overlay system for the hardware. Ah, but then it would all get more concepty and technical and the fun would be gone. :shrug:
 
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mmotomb wrote:
Updating the application is a plus not a negative. Say they changed the rules then you'd find them applied instantly instead of reading errata or buying the new rules with the corrected cards/chits. With a tablet support your update is instantaneous.
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I can't see how updates are ever a negative.

So I'm in the middle of a gaming session and suddenly the rules change (you did say "instantly"). And that is not a problem? Even if the rules I am playing with today are suddenly not the same rules that I played with yesterday I would find than an issue.

I often find that there are a dozen or so downloads when I check and I don't always look at all the changes in detail. But even if I do think "this is a game update, let's look to see what they have changed before downloading - do I want this now?" that is a negative for updates (updating everything else one at a time instead of Update All?).

Oh yes, and if you think I'm being deliberately awkward check out this thread.
 
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mmotomb wrote:
ImaginaryRoot wrote:
That's cool, until the battery in the iPad goes, or it errors and you lose your entire game's progress (unless it has some sort of auto-save feature). Or when you're on vacation and there's no way to charge the thing.

Oh, and don't forget when they put out a new iPad and they update the app such that you have to update your OS as well, or your iPad model. Don't forget content control and things like that will be there. "Sorry, only four specific people are licensed to play. Are they in the room?"

Ok I'm going overboard, but the point is whenever electronics and board games mix, a lot can go wrong and a lot can flop.


iPad lasts hours without a charger, I doubt a game session will outlast an iPad's battery life unless you're playing for more than 6 hours and in this case you guys really need a break anyway.

Also, nothing prevents you from charging the iPad on the board whenever necessary. Just plug the wire from any USB ports or Powercords (can charge from computer/laptop or just power cable). It hardly interrupts the flow of the game it's just a piece of cable for goodness' sake

Updating the application is a plus not a negative. Say they changed the rules then you'd find them applied instantly instead of reading errate or buying the new rules with the corrected cards/chits. With a tablet support your update is instantaneous. Also, expansions/updates will be easy to achieve to prolong the game's life. I can't see how updates are ever a negative. You don't need an OS update ever ever ever when you update an application. Complex games like MMORPG don't require OS upgrades when they patch content let alone a simple little application for a board game. I played MMORPGs for 12+ years now and I've never patched once and then required to update my OS, ever.

And yes you are going overboard with the "Sorry, only four specific people are licensed to play. Are they in the room?" now I think you're Trolling and I guess you got me



No trolling. I'm just very pessimistic with the direction software and licensing is taking. The idea of electronic components creeping into an area where analog is all you need worries me.

EDIT: Plus, the inclusion of electronic components usually increases the cost of the product if they are of any quality.
 
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