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I need some help. I was taking Battlestar Galactica and Settlers of Catan (both with expansions) to play as the main event to gaming night, but one of our 4 players opted out and I need a good 3-player game.

These have been recommended at various times: Carson City, Caylys, Chaos in the Old World, Citadels, Cosmic Encounter, Defenders of the Realm, Lord of the Rings, Mission: Red Planet, Modern Art, Nightfall, Puerto Rico, Race for the Galaxy, Robo Rally, Small World, Stone Age, Tigris & Euphrates,

We tend to like games with a lot of theme, but the two who are showing up are the two math-inclined players so they might be okay with euros. I would like to try a worker placement game. One of my friends does not like cards but if the game is good enough, we might be able to talk him into it. We tend to like games that involve politics or negotiation or running an empire, but are pretty open. High-interaction games are a plus.

I am looking to buy a game tonight, preferably a "main event" game rather than a filler game. I am taking Dominion as a filler game since it plays quick, plays fine with 3, and there's a good chance one player won't like it because its a simplistic card game.

So which 3-player game should I run out and buy tonight for play tomorrow?!?

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Re: Which 3-player game should I run out and buy from my FLGS after I get off work today?
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Which game should I run out and buy tonight for my 3-player game tomorrow?
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
Carson City
5.6% 5
Caylys
10.1% 9
Chaos in the Old World
3.4% 3
Citadels
3.4% 3
Cosmic Encounter
0.0% 0
Defenders of the Realm
5.6% 5
Lord of the Rings
2.2% 2
Mission: Red Planet
3.4% 3
Modern Art
2.2% 2
Nightfall
2.2% 2
Puerto Rico
10.1% 9
Race for the Galaxy
6.7% 6
Robo Rally
6.7% 6
Small World
7.9% 7
Stone Age
20.2% 18
Tigris & Euphrates
10.1% 9
Voters 89
This poll is now closed.   89 answers
Poll created by lordrahvin
Closes: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:00 am
 
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Re: Which 3-player game should I run out and buy from my FLGS after I get off work today?
I rank Stone Age lower than Puerto Rico or RftG - but in this situation I think I'd suggest it. It's very much an opportunity-cost game where math will be a strong suit. Small World would be my next option, but I tend to play that one with 4-5 only so I'm not sure how 3p would pan out.

I love 3p Puerto Rico, but it's a tough one to introduce. RftG is good 2p and 4p, but not 3p. Either way, if you're going to make a purchase you can't go wrong with those.

Nightfall has some kingmaking and Citadels isn't intended for less than 4p. Aside from that, I haven't played the rest of your list
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Disclaimer: I do not own any of these games, but have researched most of them extensively for future purchases. Mostly because of lack of available time and interested players.


Go for Stone Age. Relatively inexpensive, light/medium weight, and popular so if you hate it, trade it away!

Cosmic Encounter has received rave reviews and has some theme which you want.

I'm interested in T&E but it doesn't look all that exciting at first glance, still on the fence about it.

Chaos in the Old World is plastic porn ameritrash, no? Looks neat though. I guess I'm just kind of against Games Workshop/Warhammer stuff (mostly because of collectible systems).

Puerto Rico is overrated as far as the BGG top list goes IMO.
I remember Caylus being very heavy?

Small World looks like an overrated piece of crap to play with your girlfriend.

I eliminated Citadels from my list for some reason, balance issues? Better game available (Witches Brew?).


I really like to check the Games that FIRED other games Geeklist in case a modernization of a game has been more recently released.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
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Heh, of course Stone Age is winning. Why, I'll never understand.

For mathy people, the choice is obvious: Modern Art. But for three I'd consider a Knizia-thon: get either that or Ra PLUS Samurai. Guaranteed for a fun night.
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Heh, of course Stone Age is winning. Why, I'll never understand.


What don't you like about Stone Age? Just curious...

And can you give examples of Knizia's games for this Knizia-thon? Not everyone is well enough versed to know games by their freakin' designers lol.
 
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Voted for Nightfall (good 3 player mechanics, and can support up to 5 without issue), but I have to say that Roborally is also a blast (and can support the same number of players). Haven't played any of the others, but I would definitely recommend those two.
[edit] Heheh... I have played Defenders of the Realm, and while fun, I find some of the game end scenarios rather... trite. While Pandemic (the game it is based on) always has a huge buildup to the finale (especially when you're losing), DotR can end with a whimper where you suddenly have a group of enemies plop down in just the wrong place and overflow the capitol, causing a loss, in a single turn.
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T&E is much more of an epic game than stone age will ever be. When you are done with T&E you feel like your choices really mattered.
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inverted wrote:


I eliminated Citadels from my list for some reason, balance issues? Better game available (Witches Brew?).



Not anymore!
This is pretty hard to find right now, is it coming back in print?

(Not that I agree it's better than Citadels, in fact I prefer Citadels although I do greatly enjoy Witch's Brew as well, just a heads up on its availability or lack thereof...)
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There are 3 good choices.

For math ppl, take Modern Art and hope that they won't count everything

If you want a real good Worker Placement game, there's no way around Caylus (not Caylys btw. )

If it should have a good amount of interaction, take E&T.


I doubt Stone Age would be the game you are looking for. There's plenty of luck (not only the dice, but the "cards", which killed the game for me) and more likely a family game. There's also no interaction, away from a few restrictions.

Puerto Rico doesn't fall into any of these categories, but could work for you guys, too.

Have fun, whatever you buy!
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Honestly, I don't see why you just stick with Settlers. I think 3 is the sweet spot for the game as 4 becomes too crowded and 2 destroys trading.

My pick from the list is Race for the Galaxy. It's one of the rare games that is perfect any number from 2-4. It plays really fast, so you can give it a few plays in one night.

I especially like how it gives each player a unique starting power on their world. It's got a lot of replay value to it as well. Of course the rules are the part that you have to get down.
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My top 3 would be:

Tigris & Euphrates: it's my favourite game. Very strategic, many options and nice interaction.

Carson City: this game is one of my personal top 10 games. I really like how everything works together. You have a lot of options. Very good game.

Citadels: I like to play this, even with two. So I don't think it's a bad game for less than 4 players at all. I like the backstabbing and trying to outthink your opponent the most.
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The game you need is Hansa Teutonica!
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Caylus is a great worker placement game. It is very dry though. It is a game that you can play with high player interaction and screwage or very friendly. I would say it works very well with two or three. It plays up to five but I would not recommend it with that many players, it tends to drag at that point.

Puerto Rico is also a fantastic game, but is harder to explain. It can feel like there is less interaction but a lot of your moves are based off of what others are doing.

If you are looking for a heavier game, either one of these would work well.

I am also a big fan of Roborally, but it is a much lighter and not serious game. The benefit to it, however, is that it is very high on player interaction as long as you have a smaller map. I would also recommend checking out RoboDerby: Express, it is a dice game version that works very well. Print and Play productions makes an excellent copy of this--certainly not for tomorrow night but something to look at down the road.

As far as Stone Age goes, I think it is a fine game. My girlfriend and I play it together and it is good for that. It is a good introduction to worker placement games. If you feel you need to ease into it, this would be a good pick. If you feel comfortable jumping right into a heavier one, then go with Caylus.

I might also suggest Troyes as a sort of mathy dice rolling pseudo worker placement game. I have been having a lot of fun with it recently.
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I agree with MMB--Hansa Teutonica is a great game. It and Troyes are my two favorites I picked up last year--and I got a lot of games in the last year. My pore bookshelf is getting stuffed...
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inverted wrote:
clydeiii wrote:
Heh, of course Stone Age is winning. Why, I'll never understand.


What don't you like about Stone Age? Just curious...

And can you give examples of Knizia's games for this Knizia-thon? Not everyone is well enough versed to know games by their freakin' designers lol.
The examples as given were either (Ra OR Modern Art) AND Samurai. But I suppose Tigres and Euphrates is an acceptable alterative to one of those, I simply have yet to have the pleasure of experiencing it.

As for why I don't like Stone Age...eh, I don't know, I played it once 6 or 7 months ago, and I was just like, eh, that was alright. It's amazingly popular here on the Geek though, for some unfathomable reason. I guess I just felt like there was simultaneously too much and not enough going on in that game. I also like games that have a bit more interaction. The three Knizia classics I recommended have that interaction in spades.

So what did you end up buying, OP?
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If you're looking for a Main Event with 3 and worker placement, I would strongly recommend Puerto Rico. It plays very well with 3 (and 4-5 too -- all that I've played it with) and the theme goes well with the mechanics of economy building, worker placement and role selection.

Stone Age is also very good, and plays well for three. Some would see this as a main event, others would see it as a good warm up for Puerto Rico
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clydeiii wrote:

So what did you end up buying, OP?


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Based on the responses here, I decided on Tigris & Euphretis, but from what I saw online, it looked really hard to grasp and I felt I would have a hard time "selling people" on the game. It does, however, definitely look like a "main event" game, which is what I was looking for. If just didn't have a "Wow, let's try this!" factor. I want to pick it up, but I need to have more than a single night to learn the rules. Just watching the instructional videos looked complex. I watched about half of them, about scoring and building, and never actually got up to the "attacking" parts.

So I decided that rather than show up with a new game, I would take my players to the local game store and show them the game and see if they were interested. (I also had some unexpected constraints on my time that prevented me from going straight after work.) I figured that if my players didn't like Tigris & Euphratis based on the box and what I said about, then we could still pick up Carson City, which sounds interesting and seems to be liked by people here.

I showed up, we played a game of Dominion, and I told them about Carson City and what little I knew about Stone Age. They agreed that we should go get Carson City and take a look at it, and see if we can learn the game. They were willing to try it, but I had a hard time explaining how "worker placement" could be fun. In the end, we agreed that some new game about development in the wild west sounded fun enough to try, however.

In the end, though, despite our intentions to go pickup a new game, we ended up playing three games of Dominion and then grabbing dinner. Dominion was pretty much a hit, but didn't have the randomness one of my players was expecting. So my players have come up with some house rules they want to try for our next Dominion game which involves mixing different cards in the kingdom decks to randomize which cards are available from turn to turn.

I'm going to the hobby store tomorrow and based on what they have available, I want to pickup Carson City, or a Caylus/Stone Age combo. I'm also curious about another game someone recommended in a different thread, called Cyclades. If anyone knows anything about how this compares with some of the other games I've been looking at, please feel free to let me know.

Based on the recommendations and comments here, Race for the Galaxy is now on my wishlist again and will probably be picked up within the next month or two. The fact that it "plays quickly" has me a little leery of treating it as a "main event" game, however, which is what my immediate need is at the moment.

Thank you everybody for all of your help!
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The rules for Tigris and Euphrates aren't that hard. In fact they are quite easy. And with the overview page that came with the game (in my version there was an overview) it should be pretty easy to explain it to others without forgetting something.
 
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A quick video or 4! and you can learn it without reading anything...except the words on the screen that exist.
 
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I also picked up Citadels yesterday and am pretty happy with it. I've only played 2-player so far, but I look forward to playing again on our next game night.
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