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Roberto Amestoy
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When a Frogmen is used to attack a port did he return after the attack to homeport or is he destroyed?

When two frogmen are used against the same port did they combine his power and is this one naval movement ?

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This section, from 22.4.3, answers both questions!

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Frogmen’s special ability is to attack enemy naval units in the port they enter. Only one frogman may attack the same port in one impulse. After the attack, the frogmen are destroyed.
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usrlocal wrote:
A srategic game like WiF has frogmen?? Colour me intrigued.

Ok, now I really gotta get this!




Sounds like TOO much chrome.arrrh
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hammurabi70 wrote:
usrlocal wrote:
A srategic game like WiF has frogmen?? Colour me intrigued.

Ok, now I really gotta get this!


Sounds like TOO much chrome.


Arguably.
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Harry's argument for inclusion of the frogmen is strong; he points out that in attacks on British ships in port they accomplished more damage to the British navy than the rest of the Italian navy combined. So they should be included because they had a substantial impact on the naval war in the Med. I tend to agree, and think that they are rather historical; a surprise attack can inflict some damage. Beyond that, they tend to be rather useless except as an annoyance.
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wifwendell wrote:
hammurabi70 wrote:
usrlocal wrote:
A srategic game like WiF has frogmen?? Colour me intrigued.

Ok, now I really gotta get this!


Sounds like TOO much chrome.


Arguably.


CHROME! CHROME! CHROME! CHROME! CHROME!
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Well, I am a new forum member, this is my first reply. My English is quite forgotten, but trying to improve it.

I play WiF in since 2005. From 2009 onwards we play 3-4 sessions a month, 7 maps campaigns with the lot ( CoiF, CLiF, FiF, etc ).

As said before, in my opinion Frogmen are an important asset in both the UK and Italian arsenal. They were employed, caused substantial damage and won their place in their respective Force Pools. In the Wif world there is a place for Kamikaze, Long Range Desert Group ( as a Division ) or Amphibious Tanks, so I Think the Frogmen are not Chrome. Just a little part of a varied ( and sometimes quite exotic ) bunch of Special Units.
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Hexdot wrote:
Well, I am a new forum member, this is my first reply. My English is quite forgotten, but trying to improve it.

I play WiF in since 2005. From 2009 onwards we play 3-4 sessions a month, 7 maps campaigns with the lot ( CoiF, CLiF, FiF, etc ).

As said before, in my opinion Frogmen are an important asset in both the UK and Italian arsenal. They were employed, caused substantial damage and won their place in their respective Force Pools. In the Wif world there is a place for Kamikaze, Long Range Desert Group ( as a Division ) or Amphibious Tanks, so I Think the Frogmen are not Chrome. Just a little part of a varied ( and sometimes quite exotic ) bunch of Special Units.


The Japanese used frogmen too, at Pearl Harbor and at Sydney.
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Of course they did. They rolled bad Search Rolls, but they did...

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wifwendell wrote:
The Japanese used frogmen too, at Pearl Harbor and at Sydney.


Not frogmen, midget subs - the remains of 2 that attacked Sydney are at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, the 3rd was located within the last few years off Broken Bay, about 40km north of Sydney Harbour; it is now a designated war grave. The sub that successfully attacked just missed the USS Chicago and sank the HMAS Kuttabul a training vessel, and now the name of Fleet Base East.
 
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dazmorrell wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
The Japanese used frogmen too, at Pearl Harbor and at Sydney.


Not frogmen, midget subs - the remains of 2 that attacked Sydney are at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, the 3rd was located within the last few years off Broken Bay, about 40km north of Sydney Harbour; it is now a designated war grave. The sub that successfully attacked just missed the USS Chicago and sank the HMAS Kuttabul a training vessel, and now the name of Fleet Base East.


Yes I know, see this geeklist item about Japanese attacks on the east coast of Australia during WW2, including the minisub.

But WIF puts minisubs and frogmen under the same rule section so I used 'frogmen' as shorthand.
 
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Notwithstanding the impact on WW II of Australian training vessels, somewhat more significantly, Italian frogmen damaged 2 British battleships at a critical time in the Mediterranean. and Royal Navy midget submarines damaged the Tirpitz.

So IMHO the inclusion of "frogmen" is as valid as are the distinctions between the various models of aircraft in PiF.
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