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I was just curious if the creation and release of this game might foreshadow the release of a newer, revised edition of the core game "Blood Bowl." I've looked around, and it looks like between the various editions, age of the base game (3rd edition was 1994), and the living rulebook stuff, it would be pretty hard to "get into" Blood Bowl at this point.

Please speculate away, but I would love to hear from someone at FFG or GW (if they still have any association with the game) if possible.
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It's actually not too hard to get into it now. You can still order the base game from Games Workshop and there's an active community (see www.talkfantasyfootball.org or www.thenaf.net) to support it. If you don't have a league in town, you can play on fumbbl.com or buy the Cyanide game. In fact, I'm more worried that if Games Workshop did rerelease Blood Bowl they'd crack down on the fan community that's been keeping it alive for the past 10 years or so.
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Broccoli wrote:
I was just curious if the creation and release of this game might foreshadow the release of a newer, revised edition of the core game "Blood Bowl." I've looked around, and it looks like between the various editions, age of the base game (3rd edition was 1994), and the living rulebook stuff, it would be pretty hard to "get into" Blood Bowl at this point.

Please speculate away, but I would love to hear from someone at FFG or GW (if they still have any association with the game) if possible.


GW still owns the rights to the board game and minis aspects of Blood Bowl. I'd be willing to bet that FFG has rights to Card Games, much like FFG recently acquired the rights to Starwars Card games, Minis games, and RPG games, but has no rights to do Starwars BOARD games.

As for GW supporting the game, it seems unlikely. GW rarely caters to the "specialty games" enthusiasts that it has. As mentioned above, you can still get the 3rd edition directly from GW, but production of new models, new rules, new games hasn't existed for QUITE some time.
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There is a web site that has the Blood Bowl living rules, which goes over the rules and makes changes every year It is currently call Blood Bowl Living rules Verison 5.

But that will not help with the figures or the boards
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I too was hoping that FFG might re-release Blood Bowl but with the release of Team Manager I highly doubt that anything like that will happen. You can get the latest rules off of GW's website as a PDF, so all you need is the board, templates and some mini's to play. It's too bad GW doen't support this great game anymore. If FFG had redone BB then the quality would have been great with nice plastic mini's that would have been more afordable then the metal ones.
 
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Spicy McHagus wrote:
If FFG had redone BB then the quality would have been great with nice plastic mini's that would have been more afordable then the metal ones.


This is exactly why GW didn't let FFG do Blood Bowl.
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Blood Bowl isn't getting reprinted, because it's still in print, sort of. The Living Rule IS the current printing of the game, and it's still supported. Everything you need to play is still available. Go nuts.

It's not exactly cheap, though. Sorry.
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You can also get the computer version from Steam; it is a faithful translation of the boardgame.
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Perhaps a bit off thread. Best independent Bloodbowl miniatures site on the net: www.comixininos.com

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So if I wanted to get in on the old one...I would get a copy of Blood Bowl Third Edition, download the living rules...maybe 3rd Edition Death Zone? Would that be about it?
 
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Broccoli wrote:
So if I wanted to get in on the old one...I would get a copy of Blood Bowl Third Edition, download the living rules...maybe 3rd Edition Death Zone? Would that be about it?


You buy this from GW or from your local GW-friendly game store. I'm not actually sure what version this is, but it has everything you need except the rulebook it contains is a bit behind. The Living Rulebook 6.0 is the most recent (well, there are three new teams).
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Broccoli wrote:
So if I wanted to get in on the old one...I would get a copy of Blood Bowl Third Edition, download the living rules...maybe 3rd Edition Death Zone? Would that be about it?


That is what I did. Except for Death Zone since it is absolutely superfluous.
 
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Quote:
it would be pretty hard to "get into" Blood Bowl at this point.


I decided to do this about two and half years ago. Ordered a copy of 3rd edition off eBay for around $60, taught a few friends. Painted up the plastic teams it came with, read the rule book.

About 8 months later I jumped on a High Elf team for $30. Then a dwarf team. A few months after that I scored a big auction (second base set, 2 human teams, Orc team, Skaven team, Wood Elf team, second High Elf team) and suddenly I had enough stuff to run a 4 player league with full teams. I built interest among some fantasy football friends and off we went!

I can offer the following advice if you want to go this route and start now:

1. Start with the the 3rd edition base game. Don't worry about fancy teams, Orcs and Humans give good variety for learning/practice.
2. Look for poorly painted teams on eBay. It's pretty easy to strip the figures down, but because people are lazy it can make the price really reasonable.
3. Generally, you can find Skaven and High Elf teams cheap. If you are looking for Norse, Khemri, Ogre or Halflings they cost more.
4. It's not necessary to paint, but it makes you feel better about the investment. If you've gotten 15-20 hours of entertainment before you even play with them you did pretty well!
5. If you get a couple of enthusiastic friends into a league you're pretty well set.
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5. If you get a couple of enthusiastic friends into a league you're pretty well set.


This is probably the most important point. Even if you use meeples or something else to play the game it is still fun. Obviously having real figures that are nicely painted is a lot better though.
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Also, look on the NAF website for other players, local tournies etc. I found a large active Bloodbowl community practically on my doorstep!

www.thenaf.net

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bloodbowl is definitely alive, this november is the world championship with around 450 player's from around the world.

rules ; living rule book : lrb6.0

miniatures : ther's a lot of other companies that sell bloodbowl miniatures. google and you'll find it.
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Since no one else has mentioned it I will. You don't have to give GW a dime to play this game. There are companies online that sell pitches, block dice, and templates, and even more companies that sell miniatures (the vast majority of which are light years better than "official" BB minis)

I've ordered from Impact Miniatures here in the states and from ffstore.it in Italy. Both were great and I wouldn't hesitate to order from either again.
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If you go to a tournament, let's say GenCon or maybe a NAF tournament, what miniatures and dice are allowed?
 
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If you go to a tournament, let's say GenCon or maybe a NAF tournament, what miniatures and dice are allowed?


Of course it varies, but miniatures are pretty flexible from most of what I've seen. As long as it's clear what each figure is, it doesn't matter what company makes it. Our commish is taking a little Blood Bowl vacation to the Spike and the Chaos Cup (the two North American majors) and he's bringing a team of halflings made up of Tiki warriors.

Dice are a little more strict, basically the GW or matching NAF dice are the only ones permitted.
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GW probably won't ever actually redo the specialist games. It's harder to monetize editions and new miniatures with their self-contained games that are essentially board games (Mordheim, Blood Bowl, Necromunda, Battlefleet Gothic, etc.).

GW has outlived other mini's companies by aggressively pursuing repeat sales from their customers. To look at it another way, GW has survived by being very expensive for the people who are committed to their games. Self contained games like Blood Bowl don't contribute as well to the bottom line, so they've essentially been shelved and are just licensed out now. They'd never allow for the actual minis game to be remade, though, because that would be stepping too close to their core product line.
 
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Broccoli wrote:
I was just curious if the creation and release of this game might foreshadow the release of a newer, revised edition of the core game "Blood Bowl." I've looked around, and it looks like between the various editions, age of the base game (3rd edition was 1994), and the living rulebook stuff, it would be pretty hard to "get into" Blood Bowl at this point.

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GW still sells the base game on their website and teams to go with it.
 
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With the GW new pattern of high end, limited edition, stand alone titles releasing every 2 years (Space Hulk, Dreadfleet), I could envision a "30th anniversary edition" of Blood Bowl coming out for 2016.
 
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... Except for Death Zone since it is absolutely superfluous.

You don't need deathzone to play bloodbowl however it's a good source of plastic figures for dwarf or elf teams.
 
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Third edition Death Zone has no figures. I know that for a fact because I had it back in the nineties.
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He's thinking of Dungeonbowl,
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