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Carl Garber
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Hi all, I am seriously considering buying this game but have one question that will make my decision easier (or harder). The people I play with the most often had a hard time picking up Puerto Rico. I taught them Macao and that seemed to be the max complexity they could deal with. So is Navegador easier to understand than Puerto Rico? Is the game play fairly intuitive? Thanks!
 
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I think its a little bit smoother than puerto rico and it certainly feels a bit easier to play.
 
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I'd say it would be about the same as Puerto Rico.

When I've taught Navegador, there's usually a few things that people find hard to grasp - particularly how the market works.
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Sorry, another random comparison needed. El grande, 6 rounds takes my group about and hour and a half, while Macao takess about 2 hours. How long would Navegador take?
 
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I think they're all somewhat similar in terms of difficulty, although Puerto Rico strategy is more subtle and the game flow isn't quite as clear. In those terms, it may be a bit trickier to learn. I think Navegador is more closely tied to the theme which makes teaching it a bit easier, plus players only have a few choices per turn (although those choices change every turn) due to the rondel.

In that respect, Navegador is probably slightly easier than Puerto Rico. Navegador does have several paths to victory. It's generally best to focus on what others are NOT doing.

I love Macao, really like Navegador, and think Puerto Rico is okay.

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manukajoe wrote:
I'd say it would be about the same as Puerto Rico.

When I've taught Navegador, there's usually a few things that people find hard to grasp - particularly how the market works.

I agree that it's about on par with Puerto Rico in terms of difficulty level.

For what it's worth, users of this site have given Puerto Rico an average game weight of 3.3 and Navegador an average game weight of 3.0. Personally, I've given them both a 4.
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manukajoe wrote:
I'd say it would be about the same as Puerto Rico.

When I've taught Navegador, there's usually a few things that people find hard to grasp - particularly how the market works.


Yes, the market can be a bit tricky. But I think you can pick it up as the game goes....
 
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CarlG wrote:
Sorry, another random comparison needed. El grande, 6 rounds takes my group about and hour and a half, while Macao takess about 2 hours. How long would Navegador take?

This is tough to predict, but based on the information you've shared I'd guess about 2 hours or maybe a bit longer (especially the first play). My last play of Navegador with four people (all gamers) two who had played before and two hadn't took about 1.5 hours.
 
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And the length of the game can vary a lot depending on if a lot of people are using an exploring strategy....

 
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Thanks guys, this has been helpful. First plays are always really slow with my main group. I think from what you all have said I will buy Navegador and will introduce it when everyone is feeling sharp and feeling like something new.

This group has predominately played Settlers and Alhambra but due to my desire for change I've tried to introduce more. 3 out of the 4 of us don't mind new games but one is resistant to change. So far El Grande got negative reviews, Macao mostly positive, Stone Age split, and thurn and taxis split. To be honest I can't read my own group at all! Oh Also TTR was split and Carcasonne was negative...who are these people!?!?!?
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CarlG wrote:
Sorry, another random comparison needed. El grande, 6 rounds takes my group about and hour and a half, while Macao takess about 2 hours. How long would Navegador take?


So 2h needed for Macao and 1,5h for 64% of El Grande... That would be:

2h and 37 min

arrrh
 
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haha, I have never been able to play a real game of El Grande yet because of it!! One day.....
 
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In my experience Nav is easier to teach than PR. In PR it's quite overwhelming because you have to explain most of the buildings from the start. No such thing in Navegador.
Both games play fairly smooth in my book. And both games offer a good amount of tactical depth.
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