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I was reading the rules (didn´t play yet) and I have a few questions about the legendary pirates and the Royal Navy....

1) If the pirate starts in Island 1 and the other one in Island 4...they just keep going to the next Island each turn?? Wouldn´t be better to spin the wheel to see to which Island they would go??

2)In battle against 2 players...they play twice, one against each one (throwing the dices 2 times), or they play against the first one, and play against the other one in the second round??

3)The Royal Navy only works when someone sends it??

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1. There are variants floating around where you roll the dice for the pirates, etc... but the official rules are yes, they just go to the next island 'westward" each turn.

2. With multiple players, after the battle card phase is done:
Determine which player has highest sail, they pick an opponent and fire on them; then, the next higher sail picks an opponent and fires, then the next higher sail picks an opponent and so on until the end of that round. Then the next round, you do the same thing. When someone is reduced to zero and has to go to pirate's cove, the remainder carry on until only one lone victor remains. So it's the same as 2p battle, except that instead of just having to pick a part of a ship to fire at, you also have to specify which opponent's ship you are firing at during that dice roll.

3. Yes.
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jedimusic wrote:

2. With multiple players, after the battle card phase is done:
Determine which player has highest sail, they pick an opponent and fire on them; then, the next higher sail picks an opponent and fires, then the next higher sail picks an opponent and so on until the end of that round. Then the next round, you do the same thing. When someone is reduced to zero and has to go to pirate's cove, the remainder carry on until only one lone victor remains. So it's the same as 2p battle, except that instead of just having to pick a part of a ship to fire at, you also have to specify which opponent's ship you are firing at during that dice roll.


But since no one is controlling the legendary pirate, for example, Blackbeard (he attacks first the ship with more cannons), so he attacks the same guy until he has less cannons than the other player, and them he starts attacking the other player, or he can attack twice in the same round, first the guy with more cannons tham the other one, before they attack him (if blackbeard has more "sails")??
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Each time Blackbeard's turn comes up he attacks the player's ship that has the most cannons. Everybody has only one turn each round of combat, even the Legendary Pirates. Next round, however, Blackbeard will attack the player with the next highest cannons. So, if there were three players fighting with Blackbeard, and we assume that each player survives the first attack from him, after three rounds the players will be attacked by in order of highest (most) cannons to lowest (least) cannons in the following rounds.

Turn order is determined by sails (fastest ship). The attack order for the Legendary Pirates is determined by the ship section specified on the pirate's card.

Page 13 of the rulebook:
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"Player ships must take out any Legendary Pirate ship present - or opt to flee - before fighting each other.

Each ship on the island, including the Legendary Pirate, shoots once during each round of volleys beginning with the fastest ship and then in order by decreasing speed. The Legendary Pirate ship fires at the player with the highest-ranking area of the ship indicated on his particular summary card.

On the next volley he then attacks the player with the second highest rank in that area, continuing in this manner until he's fired at all remaining players. Remaining player ships are then re-ranked by their new relative strengths and battle continues until either the Legendary Pirate is defeated, or all player ships are either defeated or they flee."


I hope that helps.
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Hugin wrote:
Each time Blackbeard's turn comes up he attacks the player's ship that has the most cannons. Everybody has only one turn each round of combat, even the Legendary Pirates. Next round, however, Blackbeard will attack the player with the next highest cannons. So, if there were three players fighting with Blackbeard, and we assume that each player survives the first attack from him, after three rounds the players will be attacked by in order of highest (most) cannons to lowest (least) cannons in the following rounds.

Turn order is determined by sails (fastest ship). The attack order for the Legendary Pirates is determined by the ship section specified on the pirate's card.


I hope that helps.


Thanks Sheldon...that´s exactly what I wasn´t understanding!!
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On a related note, do the rules specify what to do when two players tie for the stat used to determine who the pirate attacks? I didn't see anything, so we decided to do it like you do sail speed and use a die roll.
 
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marsman57 wrote:
On a related note, do the rules specify what to do when two players tie for the stat used to determine who the pirate attacks? I didn't see anything, so we decided to do it like you do sail speed and use a die roll.

The last two sentences of the left column on page 6 reads,
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If two or more pirates have the same level of Sails, each rolls a die against the other(s) to break the tie in favor of the highest number. All other ties throughout the game are decided by using the same dice roll mechanism.

Looks like you made the correct call.
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[q="Hugin"]Page 13 of the rulebook:
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"Each ship on the island, including the Legendary Pirate, shoots once during each round of volleys beginning with the fastest ship and then in order by decreasing speed. The Legendary Pirate ship fires at the player with the highest-ranking area of the ship indicated on his particular summary card.

On the next volley he then attacks the player with the second highest rank in that area, continuing in this manner until he's fired at all remaining players. Remaining player ships are then re-ranked by their new relative strengths and battle continues until either the Legendary Pirate is defeated, or all player ships are either defeated or they flee."


I'm still confused by this.

Before re-ranking the LP will fire on all the ships ranked from high to low for the area on his summary card. So if there were two other ships sharing the LP's location one with hull 6 the other with hull 5, the LP would aim the first volley at the first and the second volley at the second. This would be true even if in the first volley the 6 hull got knocked down to 3 so it was no longer highest. Only on the third round would they be re-ranked and the second one come first for the LP's volley.

If the above is correct, then this is different from when two ships battle without the LP. In that case, the player with the most sails decides who to aim at, and who has the most sails could change between volleys so that some never get a turn and others get hit repeatedly.

Do I understand things correctly?
 
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