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Review copy kindly provided by Sirlin Games/Game Salute.

I’ve never considered games like Street Fighter to be more than a game of rock, paper and scissors, but they are, and in Yomi, you have a game similar to Street Fighter all wrapped up in a successful card game, by Sirlin Games.



Designer: David Sirlin

Number of players: 2

Age: 10+

Time: 30 minutes

What’s the game about?

A description from the publisher…

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Yomi is a card game that simulates a fighting game. It tests your ability to predict how your opponents will act and your ability to judge the relative value of cards from one situation to the next. Also, it lets you do fun combos and be a panda. There are 10 characters to choose from, each with their own deck, abilities, and style. Each deck also doubles as a regular deck of playing cards with beautiful artwork (the complete game features a whopping 120 different character illustrations).


Basic idea in my own words…

Yomi is a card game that does a good job of simulating a 2 player electronic fighting game, such as street fighter or Mortal Kombat. Each deck represents a different character to fight with. You may purchase 5 different packs, which contain two different character decks. Or you can get the big $100 deluxe box. But to get playing, all you need are two decks.

The characters in the game are from the fictional Fantasy Strike universe, and if you have read any of my previous reviews on Flash Duel or Puzzle Strike, I have no clue what this Fantasy Strike universe is, as far as it’s lore goes. But the artwork or stories behind the characters is not what interests me in this game, its the mechanism of the game play. I should mention though, that each character has his/her own slant and style of fighting, which helps make the game fun and unique.

How you play…




In Yomi, there are 4 card types, then the jokers. The core idea in the game is that Attack beats throw, Throw beats block or dodge, block/dodge beats attack.

On each turn, you must try and out guess your opponent (rock, paper, scissors) and throw the better card down. So what I mean is, if you think your opponent is going to throw, then you should throw an attack down.

Each character has a character card which gives info such as strength meters for different attributes, total combo points, special skill and health. When you start the game, you should write down your characters total health on a piece of paper (yes you’ll need pen and paper), then as you get hit in the game, you will take off that amount of damage…and the winner is the player standing!

A game can last 5 minutes longer. The idea behind this is that you’ll probably be playing numerous rounds in one sitting, and possibly even play in tournaments! To me, this is a perfect filler game. Say I need to fill 5 minutes or 15 minutes, I think I’ll break out a game of Yomi, granted there’s an even amount of players waiting, and I have enough decks. I don’t know if it’s the intention of the designer of this game to be a filler game, but to me, it is. I don’t think I’d be interested in doing serious tournament play but it’s always an option.

Anatomy of a card

Take a look at the picture below, I’ll explain the anatomy of the card a bit…



The card above is Midori. In the center of the card its obviously just illustration for theme but at the top of the card is what’s important. I’ll go everything from left to right.

Standard Ace – Each deck doubles as a standard poker deck, neat idea, probably something I won’t use as I really don’t play traditional card games, but still a nice option. But this also has an effect in the game which I’ll explain later.

Small red arrow with ‘A’ in it, pointing downward. This means that the other side of the card, is an attack. Right now as the card stands, its a throw.

Card type – indicates what type the move is, in this case, a throw.

Final Dragon Buster – name of the card.

20+16 – 20 hit points if the hit lands. +16 is an additional hit value that you can get on your opponent if you pay the respective additional card cost. With this card from the text and from the green banner graphic up top, in order to even play the card, you must discard an extra ace (thats where the aces importance comes in), and to actually get that extra 16 damage, you must discard an extra two aces, if you have them in your hand.

0.0 in yellow – this is the move’s speed. Each move has a speed, this is important when you and your opponent both throw down the same move type, if you both throw a throw card down, whomever has the quicker speed (smaller number), will land the hit.

Can’t combo – means that this card cannot be included in a combo…more on combos in a bit.

So that is the anatomy of a card. On your beginning turn, I believe you’ll have 7 cards in your hand then once decided what card you wish to play, you play the side of the card you wish to play, face down, towards your opponent. When you’re both ready, you reveal, and then resolve damage. When you both have finished the attack phase, you may discard a pair in your hand to be able to sift through your discard or draw deck, for 1 ace, 3 of a kind, for two aces, and 4 of a kind for 4 aces. Then the round begins again, with each player drawing a new card off of your draw decks.



Combos

Yomi is big on combos. Each character has a combo limit, indicated on their character card. It’s the orange boxed section with filled in or not filled in circles. Say your character has 5 filled in circles in their combo limit, well that means you can play cards that are equal or less of 5 in a round.

Some cards will say something such as linker – this simply means it can be chained from or to, or in other words, can be the middle card of a combo.

Can’t combo – can’t use in a combo.

Starter – can only be the starting card in a combo.

Ender – can only be the finishing card of a combo.

You can also combo cards based off a straight. If you attack and land a damage with a 2, well, if you have a 3,4,5,6, etc, in your hand you can throw all those out, after a successful throw or attack on your opponent to land more damage.

There are more details of the game, but for the purposes of this review, I feel what I have presented is enough and should give you, the prospective buyer, a basic overview of the game.

Breakdown

Components: 1/5

I have the single deck versions…I do not have the big set, so for what it is…just cards with tuck boxes, I’m giving this a 1. That doesn’t mean the cards are shoddy. Its also just that my rating scale only goes from 1-5, so I don’t have much room to wiggle. But for what it is, the quality is good. But for what it is, a tuck box, that will eventually get beat up real quick, and cards that just fit in the box with the rulebook and have no room for sleeved cards – I’m giving it a 1. But don’t let this deter you from getting the game.

Theme: 3/5

I like the theme. I used to love Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat but I grew out of those. I have a friend that is obsessed with SF4 and he enjoyed the game. Again, I personally don’t care for anime at all, and the character world, I don’t care about but the character abilities and types are important. And the idea of playing a fighting game, with cards, is just awesome!

Luck Factor: 4/5

I’m sorry, I had to give this one a high luck count. 1 – you are shuffling cards and just drawing whats available to you, and 2 – its your job to read your opponent, but you truly can never know what he’s going to pull, 100%.

Strategy: 2/5

Now, I’m sure the designer and other hard core Yomi players out there will disagree with me, but I don’t find its a lot of strategy. Yes, sure there’s the whole strategy of trying to hold onto cards that could give you bigger attacks by needing to collect aces and whatnot, and there’s the nature of the game, to try and “read” your opponent but at it’s core, to me, personally, this is a filler game, that could or could not last all day, that is simple and doesn’t have a lot of strategy in it. Now I know two of my friends really love SF4, and play it for hours a day, and are involved in discussions of tactics and strategy, but to me, SF and other fighting games, are simple and almost brainless activities…but that doesn’t mean it’s not fun!

Overall Feelings: 3/5

I give Yomi a 3/5. It’s a fun game that can easily fill up time. And for me, that’s what it is. I would certainly recommend it, if you are into fighting games like Street Fighter and or are into anime or are just looking for a fun filler game. But I guess what’s also good about this game, is that it can be considered for serious tournament play – not for me, but for you, maybe. It’s definitely worth checking out though and you can decide if it’s for you.

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Please refer to the many many many posts regarding luck, and research waterd's winning record.

Some luck yes, not that much, valuation and yomi much more important
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A components rating of 1/5 because it's a card game? I guess it's your review...
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What's the point of having a '1' rating if it's not that bad?

For what it is, I like that this game is not overproduced. The thinness of the cards means they show little wear over time, unlike the linen finish of more regarded games like RFTG, which rub and chafe very quickly.



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Perhaps it's premature to rate the strategy in a game if you're still unfamiliar with the strategic elements involved?
 
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Now I know two of my friends really love SF4, and play it for hours a day, and are involved in discussions of tactics and strategy, but to me, SF and other fighting games, are simple and almost brainless activities


It doesnt seem knowing the game better will change his mind about the strategy aspect of the game.
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I think this review makes it clear that Yomi can be fun on different levels. Some people--the reviewer included--don't care for the type of strategy that Yomi is based upon, and prefer to play it as a button-mashing semi-random rock-paper-scissors variant. The reviewer admits that he finds it fun as such but also that some players, who take these types of games more seriously, can play on a whole different level and enjoy it for different reasons.

In actual fact, what makes Yomi brilliant is that players who are good at it know that the luck element is relatively small. And they use their knowledge to beat players without those players knowing why they were beaten. This is how claims that the game is mostly luck persist. It is not at all unlike poker in this regard.

Personally I fall in between these extremes. I don't understand the matchups all that well (even the ones I play most often I am so-so at) but I can tell the difference between a good player and a bad one by how he plays and often am able to make reads based on the experience of my opponent. What keeps me coming back to Yomi is the opportunity to peel back one more layer of the onion in my level of understanding of the game.

I don't agree at all with the components rating of this review. Yes, it's a card game. Please don't give out components ratings of 1 just because there is no board or wooden cubes. The cards are of good quality although admittedly I play almost exclusively online so mine have not been subjected to much wear and tear as of yet.

This review is written by a casual player, for casual players. If you don't intend to play Yomi very often, and aren't interested in the metagame, or analyzing specific matchups, but are looking for a rock-paper-scissors variant with awesome art (the art alone deserves accolades, I can't believe he gave the components a 1!) this review is mostly accurate. If you enjoy poker or other games where the metagame is more important than the game, and if you like to study and become an expert at few games rather than sample the oversaturated gaming buffet of the present day, you will enjoy Yomi on a much deeper level than this review suggests.
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With all due respect, your review is not very fair and a little inconsistent.

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Components: 1/5

I have the single deck versions…I do not have the big set, so for what it is…just cards with tuck boxes, I’m giving this a 1. That doesn’t mean the cards are shoddy. Its also just that my rating scale only goes from 1-5, so I don’t have much room to wiggle. But for what it is, the quality is good. But for what it is, a tuck box, that will eventually get beat up real quick, and cards that just fit in the box with the rulebook and have no room for sleeved cards – I’m giving it a 1. But don’t let this deter you from getting the game.


So you admit its just a tuck box and the quality is good. Yet you give a 1 out of 5? How many more components does a game need to get a 5? Strange rating.

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Luck Factor: 4/5

I’m sorry, I had to give this one a high luck count. 1 – you are shuffling cards and just drawing whats available to you, and 2 – its your job to read your opponent, but you truly can never know what he’s going to pull, 100%.


I get that some people don't like variance in card games. However, im puzzled by your rating. Your rating suggests that a rating of 1 would be no luck and a rating of 5 would be all luck. Most rating conventions place a positive emphasis on high ratings, yet you do the opposite. The clue of your disaprroval for luck is your appology in your first sentence.

Maybe im being a bit picky. It is clear to me that your review is very superficial. Not superficial in a negative way, but rather your impression of the game is not deep. The game rewards repeated plays, like a good fighting game. Some people can see that right away and others do not. There is strategy in Yomi on many levels. I invite you to play for free online at fantasystrike.com/dev/
After playing a few games with other players, you will see immediately that luck will not be on your side.

 
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Simultaneous action selection is rarely luck, but it can swing. Foreseeing a Joker, for example, isn't really that doable.
 
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There must have been a moment at the beginning, where we could have said no. Somehow we missed it. Well, we'll know better next time.
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Glencannon wrote:


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Components: 1/5

I have the single deck versions…I do not have the big set, so for what it is…just cards with tuck boxes, I’m giving this a 1. That doesn’t mean the cards are shoddy. Its also just that my rating scale only goes from 1-5, so I don’t have much room to wiggle. But for what it is, the quality is good. But for what it is, a tuck box, that will eventually get beat up real quick, and cards that just fit in the box with the rulebook and have no room for sleeved cards – I’m giving it a 1. But don’t let this deter you from getting the game.


So you admit its just a tuck box and the quality is good. Yet you give a 1 out of 5? How many more components does a game need to get a 5? Strange rating.



Funny how so many people are commenting on this. It's pretty obvious that in this person's rating standard, they prefer more than just cards as components, so there would be need to be more than just cards to get higher than 1. The OP also qualifies that the cards are good quality, despite the fact that they like games with more than just cards.

Reviews are subjective, we're not talking about scientific experiments here! devil
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