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Raúl Lopezosa
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I like what I see at [url]http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/70455/official-alternate-v... [/url] , thanks Jim Krohn, but my friends and me want more and more...

What about 'cards' like Nexu Op http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/15363/nexus-ops (or somthing like that) for 'eurogamers players'? I mean, a system for get VPs under certains circunstances, some of then give you these VP inmediatily, and others at the end of the game (like Race for the Galaxy, but unseen cards), and you can spend some CP to draw cards.
 
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Darrell Hanning
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If I were the designer of this game, I'd say you're trying to change the nature of the game too much.

SE 4X is a wargame, not a Euro-style game. Some games try to be both, but not all have to.
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Well, Nexus Ops doesn't seem to be all that Euro to me, so borrowing from there might not move the game all too much in Euro territory

If you want to go all the way, you can use the King of the Warp Point variant, give special bonus cards to those holding warp points and those who lose a combat somewhere as a defender, with stuff like "move fleet one more space" or "get one free Destroyer" (or DN?) that they can play whenever they like.

That being said, these ideas don't really tempt me. Just like politics or trade (that would be my prime candidates for stuff this game doesn't have even though it might), they don't really match up to the elegance and simplicity and streamlinedness (if that's even a word) of the rules.
 
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haslo wrote:


That being said, these ideas don't really tempt me. Just like politics or trade (that would be my prime candidates for stuff this game doesn't have even though it might), they don't really match up to the elegance and simplicity and streamlinedness (if that's even a word) of the rules.


I believe the word you are looking for is "streamlinity."
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Jim Krohn
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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thanks Jim Krohn, but my friends and me want more and more...


Well, the game was made to be modular. It is very easy to tweak. I don't have anything in the works right now, but if you want to go the Nexus Ops route, you can give points out for combat (that would be the easiest thing). Post what you come up with.
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I see Space Empires 4X as a wargame not a euro, personally I would not go down the track of victory points. I like what Jim has posted as a variant and I think that goes far enough.

But if you want to put some kind of victory point game into the system, I guess that you could do that. I prefer to not to have to chase VPs.

 
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Malacandra wrote:
haslo wrote:
and streamlinedness (if that's even a word)

I believe the word you are looking for is "streamlinity."

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=152504
 
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