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Paulo Santoro
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I learned this game with some friends last weekend.

After playing a couple of times, we notice that opening with 1.d4 is very strong. We can't understand how the designer could not fix it.

Our group play that you can't make the move 1.d4.
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This move is already the fix. The prior rules only allwowed the single space advance, but the games were taking too long.

To avoid pieces bull rushing past others, En Passant was introduced as a fix to the fix.

Like so many games, they just keep patching the rules.
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PauloSantoro wrote:
We notice that opening with 1.d4 is very strong.


Actually, 1.d8 is much stronger, since you have a 50% chance to roll a higher number than with 1.d4.

For a medium value, you may consider using 1.d6...
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PauloSantoro wrote:
Our group play that you can't make the move 1.d4.

That's one way to do it. Another is to get the most brilliant members of your group looking for a strong countermeasure to 1.d4.
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One of the things I like about chess is that you must take advantage of your advantage.

And the extra sweetness of winning as black.
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What about 1.e4+- ?

I heard that Bobby Fischer played it against God, so maybe it'll work?!
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PauloSantoro wrote:
I learned this game with some friends last weekend.
After playing a couple of times, we notice that opening with 1.d4 is very strong. We can't understand how the designer could not fix it.
Our group play that you can't make the move 1.d4.


My group realized some time ago what was wrong with chess: the queen is vastly overpowered, as it's superior in every way to all the other pieces (except knights, they can move ways the queen doesn't). We always play with a house rule that she can't move more than two spaces. I don't understand why they keep playing tournaments with the normal, broken rules.

As for starting moves, I saw that too, a lot of my friends seem to be using 1.d4 pretty often, and they win against me. I really like your house rule! I'll try it next time I play, and tell you how it went.
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My guess is that most in this thread are absolutely fascinated with Tic-Tac-Toe.whistle
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markgravitygood wrote:
My guess is that most in this thread are absolutely fascinated with Tic-Tac-Toe.whistle

Actually, since we banned using the cross symbol (it was waaaay overpowered), I manage to get pretty consistent wins as the circle player.
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Plenty of fixes for chess can be found here:
http://www.chessvariants.org/

For the opening being too powerful, you can try Chess 960.

You can also tweak the game a number of different ways, including my Near Chess

Oooh, sorry, I took this thread the wrong way :-P
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Against 1. d4 play the Nimzo-Indian!!! cool That should fix your problem....or at least give you complicated positions in which you have chances to win as black!
 
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PauloSantoro wrote:
After playing a couple of times, we notice that opening with 1.d4 is very strong. We can't understand how the designer could not fix it.

Our group play that you can't make the move 1.d4.


Ah, d4 pales to insignificance compared to the Big'uns Gambit:

Basically, the problem with most openings is they don't develop your major pieces; I mean, sure, they get your bishops and knights into play, but these pale into insignificance compared with the mighty rooks.

The plan is to advance both rook pawns until the opponent captures them, thus freeing your rooks.

1. a4 (black makes some pathetic move in the centre)
2. a5 (black makes some pathetic move in the centre)
3. a6 bxa6
4. h4 (black makes some pathetic move in the centre)
5. h5 (black makes some pathetic move in the centre)
6. h6 gxh6

If your opponent hasn't resigned by this point, you continue by advancing the knight pawns and Fianchetto your bishops.


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This thread has become so funny I had to unsubscribe from it....
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You might want to check out this review:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/442795/chess-an-interest...
 
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