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Well, summer is upon us and you know what that means? Yes, sibling rivalry is ramping up to a level where mom may just lock them all in a room and let them beat themselves bloody!!

My kids are arguing about how to roll dice.

They have been playing a lot of Heroscape and my son has developed a technique of rolling one die at a time and if the previous die rolls aren't to his liking, he will "accidentally" roll the next die into it - in hopes of knocking the die to a shield. I told him that he would get roughed up and thrown out of a casino for doing this, but this did not really seem to faze him. This way of rolling will make his sister writhe in twisted, emotionally overwrought agony which I believe only adds incentive to him doing it. (Sound familiar, you boys out there?)

So, does anyone have advice for me? Where do I get a good dice tower? Or do I just ignore the whole annoying thing?
 
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give him a dice cup.
 
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give him a dice cup.

Or a dice tower. And force everyone to use it. The technique described has been around for as long as there have been dice to cheat, but I have a hunch that your son may have picked it up from one of the early Yu-Gi-Oh manga where it was exposed as a cheating technique.

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Dice cup is a nice idea.

Though I have no children, and no real experiance with kids other than how things were handled when I was a youngn', I feel the need to comment. I did something similar when I was about oh...5 or 6. The first time I did it, my grandpa simply told me about integrity, and pride, and it only being a game, but at the same time it was a show of my character. I was done with my cheating ways after that. I dunno, my grandpa just had this way about him that he could say something, and you'd have to listen. Kind of like Atticus Finch.

Anyway. Like I said. I don't have any kids, and have no experiance kids. But that's just me.
 
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We occasionally use a drinks glass. Place the dice inside and stretch a piece of clingfilm over the top. It's a good method to use when space is at a minimum or to stop cheats.
 
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He gets to roll one dice at a time and each die will then be placed in a safe place. Every time one die touches another, his sister gets to hit him with a die.
 
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Tell him to roll properly or nobody is going to want to play with him.
Why was this so hard?
 
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Ever since the dice boot stopped being produced, I haven't found a good but cheap dice tower. And the dice boot is a bit small for all the heroscape dice.
 
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They have been playing a lot of Heroscape and my son has developed a technique of rolling one die at a time and if the previous die rolls aren't to his liking, he will "accidentally" roll the next die into it


Best case this is a violation of the "spirit" of the game. Worst case it's cheating.

Dice cup and lecture. Or, if you're old school, dice cup, extra chores, grounded, lecture and whipping.
 
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Jatoha wrote:

They have been playing a lot of Heroscape and my son has developed a technique of rolling one die at a time and if the previous die rolls aren't to his liking, he will "accidentally" roll the next die into it - in hopes of knocking the die to a shield.


Or if you have people who I play with that have a photographic memory, and count every number that lands the first time. If we hit it, doesn't matter, it was a "1", it will continue to be a one. Knowing my luck, it will always be a one!

 
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Ever since the dice boot stopped being produced, I haven't found a good but cheap dice tower

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I think I feel a change in the wind says I.

 
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Jatoha wrote:
My kids are arguing about how to roll dice.

They have been playing a lot of Heroscape and my son has developed a technique of rolling one die at a time and if the previous die rolls aren't to his liking, he will "accidentally" roll the next die into it - in hopes of knocking the die to a shield. I told him that he would get roughed up and thrown out of a casino for doing this, but this did not really seem to faze him. This way of rolling will make his sister writhe in twisted, emotionally overwrought agony which I believe only adds incentive to him doing it. (Sound familiar, you boys out there?)

So, does anyone have advice for me? Where do I get a good dice tower? Or do I just ignore the whole annoying thing?


I'd tell your son what I told my nephew once, "Do Power Rangers do that? NO! And neither does your sister. And do you know why? Because Power Rangers aren't sneaky little cheaters and they taught your sister to play the cool way. And, besides, Spiderman, The Hulk, AND Darth Vader all told me on the phone the other day that anyone who plays like that can't be their friend-- or even pretend to be them-- ever. So cut it out."

Sometimes, they gotta learn it from someone else. ;-) :-D
 
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Jatoha wrote:
They have been playing a lot of Heroscape and my son has developed a technique of rolling one die at a time and if the previous die rolls aren't to his liking, he will "accidentally" roll the next die into it - in hopes of knocking the die to a shield. I told him that he would get roughed up and thrown out of a casino for doing this, but this did not really seem to faze him.


That's just plain wrong and I would say that he knows it. Time to law down the law, roll them all at once or it is a re-roll or an automatic "you lose"!

Good gaming behaviour doesn't come naturally to most of us, especially when we are kids, and it needs to be reinforced. Daughter the Elder tried something like this with us occasionally, we didn't accept the result and told her to roll the dice together. Dice cups etc. may help, but basically rolling one die at a time for nefarious purposes behaviour is to be stamped out.
 
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Aw, I love ya guys! It's always interesting to read everyone's thoughts.

Part of the problem for me today is that I am just sick and tired of dealing with all of their petty battles. You know what I mean about them just wearing you down some days? When school gets out, my kids act like a pack of dogs trying to decide who's going to be the Alpha male.
At some point the petty battles will stop, and then school will start again.

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We occasionally use a drinks glass. Place the dice inside and stretch a piece of clingfilm over the top. It's a good method to use when space is at a minimum or to stop cheats.


I like this idea, it might get cumbersome for heroscape since you use different numbers of dice all the time.

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He gets to roll one dice at a time and each die will then be placed in a safe place. Every time one die touches another, his sister gets to hit him with a die.


How 'bout mom gets to hit both of them?devil

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Tell him to roll properly or nobody is going to want to play with him. Why was this so hard?


Been there, done that, didn't work--he knows eventually someone will come around and play

BilboAtBagEnd wrote:
the dice boot is a bit small for all the heroscape dice.


thanks, I wondered if it was too small.

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Dice cup and lecture. Or, if you're old school, dice cup, extra chores, grounded, lecture and whipping.


Oh, Trippy, could I just please send them to your house for a week?

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That's just plain wrong and I would say that he knows it. Time to law down the law, roll them all at once or it is a re-roll or an automatic "you lose"!

Good gaming behaviour doesn't come naturally to most of us, especially when we are kids, and it needs to be reinforced. Daughter the Elder tried something like this with us occasionally, we didn't accept the result and told her to roll the dice together. Dice cups etc. may help, but basically rolling one die at a time for nefarious purposes behaviour is to be stamped out.


You are absolutely right. I will get on the stick next time. I don't like getting sucked into their silly battles about who got the good chair first, but this is more important than that. Tomorrow is another day and hopefully I'll have more energy to deal with it.
 
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Ever since the dice boot stopped being produced, I haven't found a good but cheap dice tower

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I think I feel a change in the wind says I.


Is the Dice Boot coming back? Or is there another alternative out there? http://www.regnadkcin.com/diceboot/ is not very optimistic.
 
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laugh NO! they've got an entirely *NEW* conception for this called the 'Dice Sandal' and they're made by 'Birkenstock'! The 'Vagaterians' ('Lesbian' being so passe') SWEAR by 'em!
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Is the Dice Boot coming back?


According to my 8-ball, "Outlook is good". Of course, it's been wrong about Microsoft products before.

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http://www.regnadkcin.com/diceboot/ is not very optimistic.


I'll update the web page if/once things get finalized. But for now, there's still a pulse on Dice Boot.
 
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I think that the simple answer to this dilemma would be for his sister to roll all of the dice.

There is nothing inherent in the game that requires each player to roll the respective attack or defense dice. They can all be rolled together.
 
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Nick Danger wrote:

I'll update the web page if/once things get finalized. But for now, there's still a pulse on Dice Boot.


That's awesome to know! I wait with anticipation.
 
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Since the day I got my dice boot (or dice tower), it becames our common practice to roll dice with the dice boot. Many new gamers (boys and girls) in my gaming groups love it. No one complains even getting three consecutive 8's rolled against Seige Engine in playing Shadows over Camelot. It looks fair by nature and avoid dice jumping off the table. Highly recommended, until I got an alternative. Unfortunately I could not find in stock any more even I am wanting to own one or two more dice boots.

And for games involving multiple dice, our usual practice is to roll them at the same time. If individual dice are rolled separately, any rolled die values are final (and/or putting rolled dice aside).
 
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Well... I know I'm going against the grain here, but...

How old are your kids?

I mean, kids should be allowed to be kids. My 3 year old son has developed all methods of cheats at games - in Chutes & Ladders, which I just taught him, he will count some spaces twice so he can get to the next ladder or chute and either climb or slide. He just loves the mechanism.

So our games of chutes & ladders generally go according to his "rules" - daddy counts fair and square and goes by the official rules, and Joshi counts the die roll in such a way that he goes where he wants.

So what? we still have tons of fun.

Another one is Old Mc'Donalds Farm, where he keeps suckering his dead to picking the wrong baby animal every round, and where he is allowed to try the baby before the mommy (guaranteeing a match). Do I really care? Nah, the point is that we're spending time together and having fun.

He knows what the rules are. Sometimes he plays them, sometimes he doesn't. As he grows up, he seems more interested in playing by them - Carcassonne being a great example (he has now grown to matching the tiles correctly, although he still gets to pick 3 for each 1 his daddy gets).

Trying to "game" the system as completely natural. I used to figure ways to do that well into my teens. So did my friends. And yet, I grew out of it, and became a die-hard gamer, very competitive, but still with a good sense that a game is just a game. Isn't that the goal anyhow?

Now, if I were you, I'd just play with him and let him cheat all he wants, but make sure the victory is kinda hollow and unenjoyable. Teach his sister this, too. The thing he is probably going after is not the cheating itself, but the thrill of "winning" while upsetting his sister. If she didn't get emotional over it, it wouldn't be worth it. Once the tool becomes ineffective, he'll most likely stop using it.
 
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Now, if I were you, I'd just play with him and let him cheat all he wants, but make sure the victory is kinda hollow and unenjoyable.


Wow. I never thought about that. Then when he gets into the real world he can apply the same theory... miscount people's change and pocket the difference, sell stocks to old ladies in companies that don't exist, use corporate pension funds for his own personal gain. It's all good, just so long as the victory is kinda hollow and unenjoyable.
 
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my group banned psykic powers. (dice in hand name a number fown and concentrate and volla your number comes up)

psykic powers work on dice( think lucky I consider my self lucky) my powers where band from risk when i was young.

and the power was never developed beyond rolling 6's on dice..

I some times wonder what would happen if i still had the pwer and if i developed it more..



 
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Here's an update:

My kids are: daughter- 11 and son- 9. Plenty old enough to know when they're cheating. I sat down and talked to my son about the whole rolling the dice thing. It seems that he was under the impression that you really could throw the dice like that, kind of like a dexterity game. He thought that was the point of having that many dice, otherwise why not just have numbers on the shields and skulls?

Some of you might think he was suckering me, but really, there was no incentive for him to lie about this. We were really just talking about it without any threat of retribution from me.

When I think about it, during the arguing yesterday, I was saying things like, "cut it out!" "Play Fair!" etc. etc. but I never really sat down and tried to work on the problem to see it from his side. My son is a really smart kid, but sometimes the obvious eludes him.

So, I explained that the dice rolling is supposed to be random. He said that he'd like to use a dice cup and we'll see what happens the next time they play.


Maybe someone should come up with a dice throwing dexterity game where you TRY to fix the rolls. After he was talking about it, it sort of sounded fun.
 
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Jatoha wrote:
Maybe someone should come up with a dice throwing dexterity game where you TRY to fix the rolls. After he was talking about it, it sort of sounded fun.


How about this?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/16747
 
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