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Ryan Lee
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i dont like Puerto rico...would ienjoy this? PR has too much thinking, too long to set up, and kinda boring, not much action
 
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It's hard to say. E&T sets up quickly, has a lot of action, but takes a lot of thinking to play well. So it meets two of your three criteria. Puerto Rico and E&T feel very different to me. In Puerto Rico, the interaction with your opponents is indirect, while in E&T it's direct; you start a war against a neighboring kingdom or initiate a revolution within a single kingdom to take over an office. I'd say the fact that you dislike Puerto Rico is no reason to believe you won't like E&T.
 
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T&E has more direct player interaction kind of action, at least as much thinking, and less set up time.
 
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oboman2002 wrote:
i dont like Puerto rico...would ienjoy this? PR has too much thinking, too long to set up, and kinda boring, not much action


Try it out for free here on the Geek. I would be willing to play a game with you if you want to learn how. I'm not that good yet, but I LOVE the game.
 
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oboman2002 wrote:
...PR has too much thinking...


I second the comment to try it out here. However I guessing the answer would be "probably not".
 
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i just hope its not too complex as we found PR to be overwhelming
 
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oboman2002 wrote:
i just hope its not too complex as we found PR to be overwhelming


That all depends. Which particular aspects of Puerto Rico do you find to be overwhelming?
 
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Hard to say. The setup is easier in T&E, but there's as much, if not more, thinkin' to do. It's a complex game, but it's so completely different from PR that it's hard to compare. It's a lot more action packed with the conflicts, so maybe you'd like that. The things you have to think about are a lot more visual in T&E too, so maybe that would help. Then again, maybe not.
 
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I have Puerto Rico and just got T&E yesterday. I love games with lots of thinking but I think the indirect player interaction makes me a little cold to PR. I still like it and am always down for a game, but I don't have that "oh my god I HAVE to play this game soon!!!" feeling with it. T&E on the other hand was a total blast after my first three player play last night. Both deep games, but maybe I just like throwing down catastrophes and taking over other people's kingdoms better than carefully planning out the best times to produce goods. I will say this, I read the rulebook most of the day and only had a vague idea how to play, but once we finally started to play it was pretty intuitive. Easy to grasp concepts that are hard to explain in the rulebook.

Anyway, bottom line, they are very different games in my mind (though both require a lot of thinkin').
 
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oboman2002 wrote:
[W]e found PR to be overwhelming[...]

T&E is very different. Many players find PR overwhelming because it takes quite a bit of play experience to sort out what the interactions and trade-offs among the various courses of action (both tactically and strategically) are. T&E has much less of this. The choices are still hard, but it is considerably easier to sort out what the consequences are. T&E is also a more "spatial" game, so if you are a spatial or visual thinker, it's that much easier to get what's going on, in contrast with PR, where the interactions are entirely economic.
 
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Another recomenndation to try it out.

The complication in Puerto Rico stems from the many special rules created by the buildings and roles, the money/points break up and so on. In Euphrat & Tigris there is much less of this so the game is simpler in that respect, but there is more you can do with your turn to change the board, so more thinking there.
 
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Is there even any relation between the two games at all? I don't think so.

With PR, "go with the flow" style of play is possible, but T&E is a definitely a thinking game.

IF you're into deeper, abstract strategy games like Chess or Go, T&E could definitely be your thing. Even if you don't like those, you might still enjoy T&E. Absolutely give it a try.
 
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