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Looks great!

My only comment is that Animal Upon Animal is nigh impossible to find outside of people trading or selling it on this site.


look again. available on all the online stores including amazon


okay, not all but some plus amazon.
 
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rdonato926 wrote:
Looks great!

My only comment is that Animal Upon Animal is nigh impossible to find outside of people trading or selling it on this site.


My FLGS has it in stock.
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kevintlee wrote:
Survive! - I did a quick search and found at least 40 copies still available currently at least online. I guess if it becomes a problem we should address it then.


ACD and Alliance are out of stock. so, FLGS's will have ahard time fulfilling this wish list item.

However, seems like there is not much interest in making sure FLGS's are taken care of. I assume you are getting a kickback from Amazon, however small, for showing their prices?
 
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Yeah and if anyone needs Animal Upon Animal (or any number of harder to find games as well, good local store) and needs it shipped, I can buy it locally and ship on your behalf as well.
 
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Nice to see Pitch Car in the list. I'm still in doubt buying it or not. It is expensive, but it looks like so much fun!
 
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I'm noting all the comments against Amazon and in favor of your FLGS. Obviously Amazon is the easiest for which to add a hyperlink that will be convenient anywhere. I know we have the game store finder here, but my use of it in the past has shown it to be wanting. (Granted I've not used it in awhile.)

Perhaps enhancements can be made in the future so that the store finder looks more like you'd see at a national store's website, and could be featured prominently in the Gift Guide.
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I certainly support encouraging purchases from local game stores. But, to be realistic, I would think that a high percentage of non-gamers who find this guide to help with their shopping are more likely to purchase the game online, rather than to locate and drive to a FLGS with which they are not familiar. References to online sources probably will increase the chances that one of these games (or similar) will be purchased. And this is a good thing, as it could lead to more people learning about better games.

I recall many heated discussions about FLGS vs. online stores since I have been on BGG. I believe BGG supports both equally. In this case, however, like the list of games itself, thought had to be given to the likely audience who will benefit from it. Encouraging purchases from any source would seem to be a worthwile effort. I happen to prefer buying from an online store, which also happens to be a local family-owned-and-operated small business. For me, that has the same impact as buying from a "normal" FLGS, and I even visit the business physically to pick up my purchases. So, let's not forget local small-business operations that happen to do most of their business online.
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But, to be realistic, I would think that a high percentage of non-gamers who find this guide to help with their shopping are more likely to purchase the game online, rather than to locate and drive to a FLGS with which they are not familiar.


You mean all those non-gamers hanging out here on BGG?
 
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Nice to see Pitch Car in the list. I'm still in doubt buying it or not. It is expensive, but it looks like so much fun!


It is a BLAST!
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You might want to add that the following games are now usually available at Target stores:

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What happened to Apples to Apples?
 
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What happened to Apples to Apples?


everyone already owns it.
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bryanwinter wrote:
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But, to be realistic, I would think that a high percentage of non-gamers who find this guide to help with their shopping are more likely to purchase the game online, rather than to locate and drive to a FLGS with which they are not familiar.


You mean all those non-gamers hanging out here on BGG?


Very first line of the very first comment: "As always, the games in this guide are targetted at the casual player, people who wouldn't normally stop by BoardGameGeek"

Amazon prices and links will be much more useful to them than any other supplier.
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But, to be realistic, I would think that a high percentage of non-gamers who find this guide to help with their shopping are more likely to purchase the game online, rather than to locate and drive to a FLGS with which they are not familiar.


You mean all those non-gamers hanging out here on BGG?


Very first line of the very first comment:


Very last "wink" of the very last comment.
 
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kevintlee wrote:
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What happened to Apples to Apples?


everyone already owns it.


True but even more true for Labyrinth. Which statistically is owned by more non-boardgamers than boardgamers.
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VERY nice list, I have found some gifts to give already! But IMHO it should also have a "Wargames" section. cry
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I second the war games section suggestion, chosing which ones to suggest, now that'll be the hard part!
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I second the war games section suggestion, chosing which ones to suggest, now that'll be the hard part!


I can give some pointers.
 
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licinius wrote:
VERY nice list, I have found some gifts to give already! But IMHO it should also have a "Wargames" section. cry


we had some discussions about adding a co-op category then a word category. upon further thought we realized a gift guide doesn't need to be separated so much by category as more so by demographics.

out of curiosity though, what would you suggest as a beginner war game?

last year had Memoir '44 but it was voted out.
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kevintlee wrote:
out of curiosity though, what would you suggest as a beginner war game?

last year had Memoir '44 but it was voted out.


Memoir 44 is an excellent beginner wargame. I use it often to introduce new players to the genre. The othe r"Command & Colors" type of games are also very good.

IMHO the best introductory games are the ones that have a short playing and set-up time. So that the newbie can replay fast, after making some beginner goofs!

Solitaire wargames are good, too. As are some of the simpler Card-Driven Games (like Hannibal).

But my first choice is still "Memoir 44" or perhaps the Z-Man game "Duel in The Dark".

of course if you new prospective wargamer especially likes one specific subject, then find a suitable title and go with it!



 
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licinius wrote:
kevintlee wrote:
out of curiosity though, what would you suggest as a beginner war game?

last year had Memoir '44 but it was voted out.


Memoir 44 is an excellent beginner wargame. I use it often to introduce new players to the genre. The othe r"Command & Colors" type of games are also very good.

IMHO the best introductory games are the ones that have a short playing and set-up time. So that the newbie can replay fast, after making some beginner goofs!

Solitaire wargames are good, too. As are some of the simpler Card-Driven Games (like Hannibal).

But my first choice is still "Memoir 44" or perhaps the Z-Man game "Duel in The Dark".

of course if you new prospective wargamer especially likes one specific subject, then find a suitable title and go with it!





Nexus Ops would fit the bill to right?

Have you played Risk Legacy? I've heard good things.
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kevintlee wrote:


Nexus Ops would fit the bill to right?

Have you played Risk Legacy? I've heard good things.


Yes, Nexus Ops is nice, too!
 
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Quarashi wrote:
I don't see My Little Pony Hide & Seek on here?

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That's why it's called My Little Pony Hide & Seek!
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loon wrote:
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I don't see My Little Pony Hide & Seek on here?

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That's why it's called My Little Pony Hide & Seek!

LMFAO !

Please, hide this game and never shows it.
 
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It's a shame that some of this year's children's game recommendations are just . . . sorry . . . crap.

Amazeing Labyrinth is a game that non-gamers already know about. You can find copies in any thrift store in the US. Magic Labyrinth is also already a well known game in the general public. And Go Away Monster might be a fine game, but it doesn't hold a candle to either Chicken Cha Cha Cha or Viva Topo. I believe the reason both of these far better games were excluded was because they weren't available through Amazon. I just ordered Chicken Cha Cha Cha with coupons for $23 from Barnes and Noble. They also have Viva Topo in stock.

I would have spoken up during the debates about what games to include had I known about B&N's inventory. Amazon should not be the be all and end all in determining what we promote to non-gamers, especially when the games being recommend are already common knowledge amongst non-gamers.

I realize this is all after the horse has left the barn so perhaps this is more a plea for next year. It seems as if a mob mentality took over this year. Once someone said a game "wasn't widely available" it somehow became the gospel truth. At least in the children's category, this resulted in poor recommendations.
 
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