Roger Howell
United States Lenexa Kansas

On page 6, under the shoot out example, it says that Wild Bill has 4 dice and Alfie has 2 dice. The example says that Wild Bill first rolls two dice to make their dice equal. But on page 5 it states that the first roll you simply take the difference of the two dice, and then after that you make the dice equal. This does not match.
Am I just totally confused or is this simply another badly written rule book?

Andrew S. Fischer
United States Devon Pennsylvania

They mean: the higherdice player rolls the difference in dice between the players. So the 4dice player starts the shootout by rolling two dice. If the other player's cowboy survives, then each player has two dice left.
Now they each roll a die at the same time, and apply results.
Then they each have one die left and, assuming the battle hasn't been resolved, they both roll again.
I like this system a lot. Can't say the same for the game itself, though....

Mark Biggar
United States Mountain View California

It's always talking about the number of dice rolled not their values. Therefore 42=2, so Wild bill rolls and resolves 2 dice (the difference) then as each player now has 2 dice (the number being equal) they would continue rolling and resolving single dice each for the remaining dice.
So the example (2 dice) is the difference between 4 dice and 2 dice so the example matches.

Roger Howell
United States Lenexa Kansas

Thanks guys, I did understand it then (from another post.) So the rule book explains it correctly but it explains it wrong in the example, which was my main point. The example states that Bill rolls two dice first to make their dice even, which is incorrect because the first roll is the difference between the 2 player's dice, and then after that they make their dice even.
Haven't played this yet. Sounds like fun on paper, but I am starting to wonder if I made a purchase mistake. Will find out this weekend. We like Oregon but there is no fighting in that game, so I thought this game might do the trick. (We have Carson City, but it's a little too complex for my playing partner.)

Steve Duff
Canada Ottawa Ontario

rogerramjet3361 wrote: The example states that Bill rolls two dice first to make their dice even, which is incorrect because the first roll is the difference between the 2 player's dice, and then after that they make their dice even.
No, the example is correct. "To make their dice even" is the goal. He rolls two dice to get rid of his extra dice, which now makes them even at 2 dice each.
I have $8, you have $5, I have to throw away $3 to make us even.



I really do not understand why you think the example is wrong. You may write what would be the correct sentence according to you in this example, to help me understand how you understand ?

Roger Howell
United States Lenexa Kansas

I guess I don't understand why for their first roll it states "to make their dice even." Doesn't that happen on the second roll? The first roll is the stronger cowboy rolling the difference between both players dice. So the example should state:
"The strength of two cowboys is Bill 4, Alfie 2. Since Bill has 2 more dice than his opponent, he now rolls 2 dice." (I omitted "to make their dice even) because that happens on roll 2. This sentence is explaining roll one.
I guess I just don't understand then because on page 5 it clearly states the first roll is the stronger cowboy's roll and he rolls the difference between the two dice (nothing about the dice being even until the second roll.) What am I missing?
Thanks!



I think you do not miss anything, but you do not understand what means "to make their dice even".
As the best one has 2 more dice than is opponent, if he rolls 2 dice, they then have the same number of dice  so he rolls on 1st round 2 dice because he has 2 more dice than his opponent and so it will make their dice even, that is what means he rolls 2 dice to make their dice even
On roll 2, they already have their dice even, so they cannot make their dice even

Roger Howell
United States Lenexa Kansas

Okay the light bulb just went on LOL! If the example had been written like this I might have gotten it the first time:
"The strength of two cowboys is Bill 4, Alfie 2. Since Bill has 2 more dice than his opponent, he now rolls 2 dice to make the remaining unrolled dice even between the two players (Bill will have 2 dice for the next round as well as Alfie.")
I guess I wasn't connecting the dice being even in the first roll because the main focus is rolling the difference and the lesser focus is the remaining unrolled dice. Had I actually played the game before posting I probably could have avoided all this.
Thanks everyone. BTW, I posted a simple one page PDF file of all the buildings and their functions. Should really help new players. (The file is still pending from ADM.)


