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Kwang Il Kim
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Hi?

I'm translating text on the cards into Korean.

I'm confused about some terms.
Please check them out whether they contain my teammate or not:

1. Candles's echo effects - If every other player has ...

2. Noodles's dogma effects - If you have more [1] in your hand than any other player...

3. Scissors's dogma effects - If Paper is a top card on any player's board...

4. Kobukson (Geobukseon)'s echo effects - Splay left one color on any player's board.

5. Piano's echo effects - Draw a card of a value present in any player's hand.

6. Hot Air Balloon's dogma effects - You may achieve (if eligible) a top card from any other player's board...

7. Elevator's dogma effects - Choose to transfer all cards of the chosen value from either all other players' hands...

8. Typewriter's dogma effects - For each color of card returned, if any other player has...
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The official rules state:

Team Innovation (2v2) Official Rules
Note: For your first game, we recommend you play with two or three players. Also, for four players, here is a variant we enjoy:
In Team Innovation, you partner with the player across from you. Victory is claimed by having six achievements between the two of you, or having the higher combined score in the event of someone trying to draw an 11. If a card says that you win, your entire team wins.
I Demand dogma effects ignore your partner completely. Also, cards that refer to “opponents” or “other players” ignore your partner.
Non-demand dogma effects are shared by your partner as normal, but if they were the only player to share, you do not get a bonus Draw action.

All other aspects of game play remain the same.
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3, 4, 5 affect teammates. 1, 2, 6. 7, 8 do not.
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Aack! We've been playing teams wrong this whole time!

So much wasted time. So many logged seriously fun games that were all lies. Lies!. -sigh-


Seriously, thanks for clearing this up. I'm looking forward to my next team game to see how this plays differently.
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SurfinDecoy wrote:
Aack! We've been playing teams wrong this whole time!

So much wasted time. So many logged seriously fun games that were all lies. Lies!. -sigh-


Seriously, thanks for clearing this up. I'm looking forward to my next team game to see how this plays differently.


I have dispatched the proper [Authority] icons to your house.
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As a general rule, Dogma effects that can target or care about any player, including you, will do likewise for your partner, while those that ignore you will also ignore your partner. This makes sense, since you're on the same team.
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SurfinDecoy wrote:
Aack! We've been playing teams wrong this whole time!

So much wasted time. So many logged seriously fun games that were all lies. Lies!. -sigh-


Seriously, thanks for clearing this up. I'm looking forward to my next team game to see how this plays differently.


We have played many more two player than four, but I am still taking those losses back (i just assume the loss when playing against you in any format)! Guess we have new rules to learn for New rules for New Years Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve
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jocose wrote:
SurfinDecoy wrote:
Aack! We've been playing teams wrong this whole time!

So much wasted time. So many logged seriously fun games that were all lies. Lies!. -sigh-


Seriously, thanks for clearing this up. I'm looking forward to my next team game to see how this plays differently.


We have played many more two player than four, but I am still taking those losses back (i just assume the loss when playing against you in any format)! Guess we have new rules to learn for New rules for New Years Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve

Your team record is now a clean slate. The games wouldn't have changed too much. But even from Age 1 I can think of games that would have gotten off on better footing.


Oh, how many times has my Clothing meld been completely useless playing by the rules we made up? We were only reading the "your opponent" cards as not including partners. This will open up several new possibilities.
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There are many answers here!
Thanks for all!
 
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