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my daughter came home from daycare today and said "dad, i played a cool new game today." "do you have monopoly?"

i suppose i could have lied.

but i did try "how about cheeky monkey, dungeon lords, heroscape, ghost chase, break the safe, please not monopoly."

the things we do for our kids....



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What a great dad
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jocose wrote:
my daughter came home from daycare today and said "dad, i played a cool new game today." "do you have monopoly?"

being a new gamer of a couple years, the answer was unfortunately "yes."

i suppose i could have lied.

i tried "how about cheeky monkey, dungeon lords, heroscape, ghost chase, break the safe, please not monopoly."

the things we do for our kids....



My condolences... Time to look for a new day care?
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Just avoid house rules. I don't hate monopoly and in fact have much nostalgia for it, but there are a lot of games that I'd rather play. Run through a full game and use it as an opportunity to figure out what aspects of it your kids enjoy and then explain why you prefer to play games with similar elements.

This is an opportunity!

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I'm actually curious about playing Monopoly again. I've only played once with the proper rule of putting each property up for auction when the player landing on it passes on purchasing it.
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I'm actually curious about playing Monopoly again. I've only played once with the proper rule of putting each property up for auction when the player landing on it passes on purchasing it.


see i thought that was a house rule ...... ahh the monopoly mystique! my game does not have the rules in it anymore .....
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jocose wrote:
SurfinDecoy wrote:
I'm actually curious about playing Monopoly again. I've only played once with the proper rule of putting each property up for auction when the player landing on it passes on purchasing it.


see i thought that was a house rule ...... ahh the monopoly mystique! my game does not have the rules in it anymore .....


http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/monins.pdf

the big two are:

1. All unowned properties landed on are either bought by the player who landed on them, or auctioned to the highest bidder. (starting at any price)
2. no money of any kind is placed on, or handed out from, Free Parking.

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thepackrat wrote:
jocose wrote:
SurfinDecoy wrote:
I'm actually curious about playing Monopoly again. I've only played once with the proper rule of putting each property up for auction when the player landing on it passes on purchasing it.


see i thought that was a house rule ...... ahh the monopoly mystique! my game does not have the rules in it anymore .....


http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/monins.pdf

the big two are:

1. All unowned properties landed on are either bought by the player who landed on them, or auctioned to the highest bidder. (starting at any price)
2. no money of any kind is placed on, or handed out from, Free Parking.

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we did #2 right
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Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?

I look back at playing Monopoly with family 35 years ago - strictly by the rules and showing no mercy to the youngest sibling, me - as a positive learning experience.

Learning about probabilities, weighing value, managing resources, weighing risk, percentages, counting money, making change, counting, return on investment, playing to win but having fun playing...

It also taught me not to expect to always "win" and get what I want out of life, but it's the experience that counts.

Sure, bad luck can lead to early elimination, but so what? Is it just that there are "better" games nowadays?
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bingle wrote:
Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?


roll and move game that. never. ends.
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bingle wrote:
Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?

I look back at playing Monopoly with family 35 years ago - strictly by the rules and showing no mercy to the youngest sibling, me - as a positive learning experience.

Learning about probabilities, weighing value, managing resources, weighing risk, percentages, counting money, making change, counting, return on investment, playing to win but having fun playing...

It also taught me not to expect to always "win" and get what I want out of life, but it's the experience that counts.

Sure, bad luck can lead to early elimination, but so what? Is it just that there are "better" games nowadays?


i don't hate it, i thought the post would get a few laughs is all....

of course there are lots better games i would rather play, but if the kids want to play a game with me, i'm playing and always use them as teaching (or learning) opportunities .....
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dsant wrote:
bingle wrote:
Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?


roll and move game that. never. ends.


Played with the real rules its 120 minutes, tops.

Its still too long, lacks interesting decisions, and is swayed radically by player skills in charisma/convincing/cajoling/bribing/threatening. But its a much better game with the auctions and no cash on free parking than the version I played my entire youth.
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jocose wrote:
my daughter came home from daycare today and said "dad, i played a cool new game today." "do you have monopoly?"

being a new gamer of a couple years, the answer was unfortunately "yes."

i suppose i could have lied.

i tried "how about cheeky monkey, dungeon lords, heroscape, ghost chase, break the safe, please not monopoly."

the things we do for our kids....





All boardgamers need to start somewhere. While Monopoly may not be a great game by many here it is a good starting game for young children.

So play a few games and them get her to move onto the better games in your collection.

I still have a copy myself though it has not been played in like 10 years if not longer.

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"Honey, if you enjoyed Monopoly, let Daddy show you some *real* games!"
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bingle wrote:
Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?

I look back at playing Monopoly with family 35 years ago - strictly by the rules and showing no mercy to the youngest sibling, me - as a positive learning experience.

Learning about probabilities, weighing value, managing resources, weighing risk, percentages, counting money, making change, counting, return on investment, playing to win but having fun playing...

It also taught me not to expect to always "win" and get what I want out of life, but it's the experience that counts.

Sure, bad luck can lead to early elimination, but so what? Is it just that there are "better" games nowadays?


Yes there are better game nowadays. Of course there were better games thenadays too. Acquire is far more interesting, to me, than Monopoly.

I do find this recent campaign to get people to play Monopoly 'right' to be very fascinating though. Given the number of bloggers I have seen spouting the 'you hate Monopoly b/c you don't play by the rules' makes me think this is an underground advert campaign backed by Hasbro.

But I have been told I have a low and suspicious mind

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All boardgamers need to start somewhere. While Monopoly may not be a great game by many here it is a good starting game for young children.

So play a few games and them get her to move onto the better games in your collection.

I still have a copy myself though it has not been played in like 10 years if not longer.

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Something tells me you haven't played a lot of games with kids. IME kids love repetition. To the point where I think they can be legally classified as insane.
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It is said that one of the keys to parenting is sacrifice.

Seriously though, if it helped get my kids into board games, I would gladly play Monopoly with them to start with. Think of it like legos... Start with Duplo and then work slowly up to the Technics.
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dsant wrote:
bingle wrote:
Why does (almost) everyone on BGG have an overt hatred for Monopoly?


roll and move game that. never. ends.


I don't like player elimination either. Most games reach a point where a critical majority are bankrupt/bored and then it just gets shelved.
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ohbalto wrote:
"Honey, if you enjoyed Monopoly, let Daddy show you some *real* games!"


she already plays a variety of games with me, monopoly was just new to her
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lostdog wrote:
My condolences... Time to look for a new day care?


Actually, this might be an opportunity for Dad to offer the teacher a "games day" or other event for kids to learn "real" games. I enjoyed Monopoly as a kid -- I somehow owned the entire purple and light blue side of the board -- but, as said, kids are insane. (They inherit it from their parents!)
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ejtracer wrote:
It is said that one of the keys to parenting is sacrifice.
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really no sacrifice at all, the post really was meant to get a laugh because of the general scunner of monopoly

like a poster above i discovered i had a bit of nostalgia for the game while playing

sure i like games, i like to win them, i play to win them, i like the mental exercise, but the real substance to me is the quality time spent with family and friends

i can ask my daughter a hundred times what did you do today? "nothing", "watched alpha and omega on my ipod", "painted", "nothing"

start talking over a game monopoly and i learn that heather watched the movie with her, troy spilled her paint, on purpose! and that madison told her that seth told nolan that he liked kayla, which she thinks is gross (yeah me!) though i need to get a good look at this troy on my next trip through the daycare whistle

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Hehe cute pic.

I have to say though, although there are usually other games I'd rather play, I don't think Monopoly is *that* bad of a game. Generally what I find breaks it are house rules like the "put money on Free Parking" thing (causing the game to last longer), and a fear of interacting with other players, which causes the game to turn into a mindless (and nearly endless) cycle of circling the board and spending money every turn.
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Looks like good bonding time, that's what its all about anyway.
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I've found that kids like rolling dice; they just like the activity of it... And since Monopoly has dice, which most Euros don't... It also has a theme that gals like (which may be why Heroscape may not appeal to her, she is going to be influenced by her friends).

With those aspects in mind, here are a few suggestions of games to seek out that are far more interesting than Monopoly:

Boggle/Big Boggle
Cloud 9
Sushizok im Gockelwok
Clue Express

Cheers,
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jocose wrote:

i can ask my daughter a hundred times what did you do today? "nothing", "watched alpha and omega on my ipod", "painted", "nothing"

start talking over a game monopoly and i learn that heather watched the movie with her, troy spilled her paint, on purpose! and that madison told her that seth told nolan that he liked kayla, which she thinks is gross (yeah me!) though i need to get a good look at this troy on my next trip through the daycare whistle





A good game is just as much about the people playing as it is about the game itself, so what we have here is a case of Monopoly being a very good game.

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