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Oh Hell No! 2


January 23


After the statue of Avin was erected mostly all was quiet. Sure, sometimes parents would take their children to the Myjam Memorial to keep the history fresh in their minds and provide a subtle caution, but eventually the edge of fear began to dissipate. However, the blood of the lycanthrope had not been eliminated. Slowly and slowly through generations it began to mutate again, two genes of it, it began to...produce...and reproduce. They were here again, weren't they?

Lynch: 2 pm
Night Orders: 4 pm
Tiebreak: LHLV
Role Reveal: Priest dependent
Victory: Wolves=parity, elimination of other clan. Village=elimination of wolves.


Summary
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1 Lone Elder Wolf
3 Cursed Elder Sorcerers

1 Lone Chaos Wolf
3 Cursed Chaos Sorcerers

2 Wandering Cursed Sorcerers

1 Seer
1 Aux Elder Seer
1 Aux Chaos Seer
2 Bodyguards
1 Hunter
2 Rangers
1 Priest
2 Students (Half-Priests)
1 Understudy
9 Villagers

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The Despicable

Lone Wolf
Eats stupid humans or converts the cursed of his own clan - or free agent Sorcerors - if he tries to eat them.

Cursed Sorcerors
Know ID of the Lone Wolf of their own clan. Each night can look for Seers (each will show up as positive for "seer"). This includes the regular seer and the aux seer of their own clan. If eaten by any wolf of their own clan, will turn into a wolf and will lose Sorceror ability. Each wolf makes their own kill. When a Sorceror becomes a wolf they will discover IDs of all wolves and all who henceforth become wolves, but cannot chat with other wolves. N0 random negatives for Sorc views.

Wandering Sorcerors
They know no IDs of any of the wolves. However, each night can view for wolf or not wolf. If successful then they will learn that the player targeted is a Werewolf and from what Clan. Does not learn info about seers or sorcerors. If targeted by any wolf will become a werewolf of that clan. If dies unconverted will win with a "default clan" they are given at game start. Each Wandering Sorc is given a different default clan. Gets N0 random negative.


Important Evil Rules:

1. All Sorcerors except the free agent Sorcerors will know the Lone Wolf of their own clan at game start.
2. When Sorcerors become wolves they lose Sorceror abilities.
3. Each wolf makes their own kill. All wolves can kill in the night.


The Good

Seer
Each night chooses a player and sees if they are wolf or not, from any clan. Gets a N0 random negative.

Aux Seer
Each night chooses a player and sees if they are Sorceror or not from the particular clan they view for. Each clan Aux Seer also gets positive views for any Wandering Sorceror. Gets a N0 random negative.

Bodyguards
Each night choose a player to protect. Cannot choose self or same person consecutive nights. Upon successful protect, becomes a martyr. A marytr functions as a Bodyguard but instead dies in the player's place instead of preventing kill. 2 Bodyguards/Martyrs must be present if 2 or more wolves attack same target. If 1 Martyr and 1 Bodyguard protect and 2 wolves attack, then Martyr dies. If 3 wolves attack, then target dies. And so on. If a Bodyguard/Martyr protects a player who is attacked by one wolf, and a separate wolf attacks the Bodyguard/Martyr in question, both targets still die. If protects successfully is notified of it.

Hunter
If alive at end of game with one wolf, village wins. Also, each night picks a player. If that player is a Ranger, that player becomes another Hunter. N0 Random Negative. As many Hunters are alive count for equal amount of wolves for win. E.g. 2 Hunters mean with 2 wolves alive at game end, good would win. Any hunter will know of, but not be able to chat with successful recruits. (see endgame scenario rules)

Rangers
Know ID of the Hunter. If chosen by the Hunter in the night, will become Hunters.

Priest
Passive. Counts as a whole Priest. Each night the priest picks a player to view for Student. N0 Random Negative. When two or more of priest ability is alive, then all roles are revealed. 1.5 = alignment at night, full role for lynch. 1.0 = none at night, full role at lynch. 0.5 = none at night, alignment at lynch. 0 = no roles are revealed.

Student
Passive half-Priest. Counts as a half Priest. Knows ID of Priest. If chosen by the Priest in the night, will become Priests (whole). When two or more of priest ability is alive, then all roles are revealed. 1.5 = alignment at night, full role for lynch. 1.0 = none at night, full role at lynch. 0.5 = none at night, alignment at lynch. 0 = no roles are revealed.

Understudy
Each night picks a player and also picks either Seer (not an Aux Seer), Bodyguard, Hunter or Priest. Will learn if that player is that role. If ever targeted by Seer, Bodyguard, Hunter or Priest, then becomes that role for subsequent nights. The player who targets and converts the understudy remains unaware however. Gets a N0 negative of a player that is none of the above roles.


Villagers

Kick some butt!

Clan and Endgame Scenarios

* If two wolves from opposing clans target the same player, then they quarrel and no kill occurs. Also, e.g. if 2 from Elder clan attack a player and 1 from Chaos clan does, then 1 from each clan will quarrel and 1 from Elder clan will remain for the attack. (1 in case a bodyguard also protects).

* Clans picking the same target and quarreling each other away takes place before bodyguard protection.

* If one clan remains then normal werewolf victory conditions apply.

* If one player from all three teams is left, then the humans/village wins.

* Hunters can win with a clan mix. For example if two hunters remains with a werewolf from each clan then the village wins.

* If all wolves of a clan are dead and Sorcerors remain, then all the Sorcerors die as well. However, it will not be announced that a clan has been eliminated.

Order of Night Actions

Bodyguard Protection
Understudy View
Aux Seer Views
Werewolf Night Kills
Seer View
Sorceror Views (including Wandering)
Priest Recruit
Hunter Recruit

Links to previous games
Oh My!
Oh My! 2
Oh My! 3
Oh My! 4
Oh My! 5
Oh Hell No!
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Player List According to Cassandra:
annab
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Avin
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Sandlewood99
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StatSig
Tarrant
TommyDanger
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Valkerie32
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31 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/7430...
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
I almost titled this game "Oh Hell No 2: Statsig's Redemption" not just because of the original game but Stat's had a rash of rough hinting games. Time to break out of it with the big one. We'll see what happens but I feel good about it.

This game is unavailable to the weak.

1) There will be significant posting
2) If you're evil there will be significant pressure to not be discovered...but not discovered
3) If you're good there will be significant pressure to discover.
4) It takes a lot of reading between the lines.
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Avin can you run a win pct for the Oh My breed of games:

Oh My 1-5
Oh Hell No
Good grief
Oh?
Two Point Oh?
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
dbmurph22 wrote:
Stat's had a rash of rough hinting games.


I appreciate that the way this is worded makes it sound like the bad games just sort of happened to me and I was in no way involved in their roughness.
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Ewwwww Stat has a rash?

Maybe if you put some Jam on it.

Is this your Jam?
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
dbmurph22 wrote:
Avin can you run a win pct for the Oh My breed of games:

Oh My 1-5
Oh Hell No
Good grief
Oh?
Two Point Oh?


You mean by player?

By the way, I'm going back and forth on whether to sign up for this or not ...
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Avin wrote:
dbmurph22 wrote:
Avin can you run a win pct for the Oh My breed of games:

Oh My 1-5
Oh Hell No
Good grief
Oh?
Two Point Oh?


You mean by player?

By the way, I'm going back and forth on whether to sign up for this or not ...


I'm pretty sure that's a Wandering Sorceror hint.
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
mmesich wrote:
Ewwwww Stat has a rash?

Maybe if you put some Jam on it.

Is this your Jam?


I'd rather this Jam, thank you:

 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Dear sorcerers: Here's a few tips.

1. Don't lynch yourselves
2. Don't assume that you know who the other sorcs are
3. Don't ever hint directly to your wolf
4. Hint to random people
5. Let your wolf direct traffic
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ohgrande wrote:
Dear sorcerers: Here's a few tips.

1. Don't lynch yourselves
2. Don't assume that you know who the other sorcs are
3. Don't ever hint directly to your wolf
4. Hint to random people
5. Let your wolf direct traffic


No. 3 is optional. If you choose not to follow it make sure you do not, under any circumstances, get caught.
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Avin wrote:
dbmurph22 wrote:
Avin can you run a win pct for the Oh My breed of games:

Oh My 1-5
Oh Hell No
Good grief
Oh?
Two Point Oh?


You mean by player?

By the way, I'm going back and forth on whether to sign up for this or not ...


Sign up. I can take it

(and hey imagine the fun if you draw wolf).
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Avin wrote:
dbmurph22 wrote:
Avin can you run a win pct for the Oh My breed of games:

Oh My 1-5
Oh Hell No
Good grief
Oh?
Two Point Oh?


You mean by player?

By the way, I'm going back and forth on whether to sign up for this or not ...


Sorry missed your post somehow.

Yeah, by player. Maybe further broken down by good/evil.

You should play. I think in many games you'd be a candidate for an early meta-kill but the Oh My type games deter that due to the alternative kill motives.
 
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Mine's easy. Two wins as good. Oh Hell No! and Oh!?
 
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Player Games Win Rate EvilRate GoodRate
adiamant 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Americanadian 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
annab 3 0.3333 0.0000 0.5000
auramine o 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Avin 5 0.6000 0.3333 1.0000
baub64 3 0.3333 0.0000 1.0000
Belash 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
berserkley 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
BlackSheep 2 0.5000 - 0.5000
bosworthdelajive2 0.5000 0.0000 1.0000
brhees 4 0.7500 0.0000 1.0000
davidenkinderen 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
dbmurph22 4 0.5000 0.0000 0.6667
dcm13 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
dcorrin 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
Dekal 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
Dispaminite 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
dkromm 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
emperorhand 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Flash Gordon 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
Fortune 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
gdapkus 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Gelatinous Goo 5 0.4000 0.0000 0.6667
GrimJester 4 1.0000 - 1.0000
happyabg 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
houndsoftindalos1 1.0000 - 1.0000
jageroxorz 3 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000
jamgar 4 0.5000 0.3333 1.0000
Javal 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
jmilum 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
juliancarlin 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
KakarisMaelstrom2 0.5000 0.0000 1.0000
Kaldar 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
kimapesan 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Kippax 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
kristiefix 2 0.5000 - 0.5000
kuchick 2 0.5000 0.0000 1.0000
lippyj 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
LuckayLuck 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
LudesFactor 2 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000
Lukie 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
lvoverride 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
marrk 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
maximusstrife 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
Melriken 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
Melsana 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
MichaelL 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
mmesich 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
Moozers 3 0.6667 - 0.6667
Mr Mauve 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
Mulligans 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
ohgrande 6 0.5000 0.0000 0.7500
paulsantac 2 0.5000 - 0.5000
pcservbot 3 1.0000 - 1.0000
PeteVasi 4 0.5000 0.0000 0.6667
Poolyxpop 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
praisechick 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
raid1280 2 0.5000 0.0000 1.0000
redemption99 2 1.0000 - 1.0000
Redhawke 3 1.0000 - 1.0000
redshark92 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
RighteousFist 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
riot 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Robb 5 0.4000 0.0000 0.6667
saberwolf13 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
SaiSaysPlayGo 3 0.6667 0.0000 1.0000
Sandlewood99 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
sarah55555 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
shadowing 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
silverbonds 1 0.0000 - 0.0000
Snaak 5 0.4000 0.0000 0.6667
Spud 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
StatSig 7 0.4286 0.0000 0.7500
SuperChutney 3 1.0000 - 1.0000
Taka 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Tarrant 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
The Warp 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
TheArchAngel 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
Thodoron 3 0.3333 0.0000 1.0000
TiwazTyrsfist 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
twomillionbucks 3 1.0000 - 1.0000
Valkerie32 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
vandemonium 1 0.0000 0.0000 -
Vovix 1 1.0000 1.0000 -
Whirlinghurly 2 0.0000 0.0000 -
Wightwolf 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
woodjh 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
xandryyte 2 0.5000 0.0000 1.0000
yiatzi 1 1.0000 - 1.0000
yohanleafheart 3 0.3333 0.0000 1.0000
ziilch 2 1.0000 - 1.0000

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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Only one out of all the Oh My series games has ended in a win for evil. Naturally every player with a perfect win record as evil only was evil in that game
 
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Oh, right. I wonder who was involved as evil in that game.
 
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MattJester has the best overall stats. Where is that guy? I miss him.
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
I just signed up on Cassandra. And on Avin's team.
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Re: Oh Hell No! 2 - January 23rd. MY..OH...MY
Auramine O wrote:
I just signed up on Cassandra. And on Avin's team.

Yeah - what she said!
 
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I don't think I could manage such a large game again, but sign me up if you need a last player to fill this up and I'll give it a shot.
 
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ohgrande wrote:
Dear sorcerers: Here's a few tips.

1. Don't lynch yourselves
2. Don't assume that you know who the other sorcs are
3. Don't ever hint directly to your wolf
4. Hint to random people
5. Let your wolf direct traffic


Incorrect.

3. Hint as blatantly to your wolf as you can. There's no way you could possibly get caught. whistle
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Avin wrote:

StatSig 7 0.4286 0.0000 0.7500


So what I'm seeing here is that if I'm dealt Evil, we can just call the game and save everyone the trouble. laugh
 
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Looks fun!
I just signed up on Cassandra.
 
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