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I mean, American "football" is nothing like real football.
Since the beginning I have said soccer for American football, because soccer means nothing and well, I'm not really sure what they do there.

They have the ball in hands and run, they throw the ball and once in a while they kick it.

I think soccer goes good for it. Or something like American handball...
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Tackleball, American football should be called tackleball, and soccer should be called football.

But it will never change, America is one of the most conservative nations in the world, still holding out against the metric system with the arbitrary US system of customary units, and against Celsius with the Fahrenheit system.
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"Soccer" is short for "Assoc. Football," the original name of the sport in the US.

American football is call such because, like soccer/football, there is a ball, and you kick it during the game. Back when soccer was called association football, American football was called "gridiron football" sometimes to differentiate it.

Makes perfect sense to me.
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Because Cricket was already in use.
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I don't care if it logically fits or not anymore. I like the name just because it gets the "ferners" all riled up.
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I prefer "Pigskin" as afterward, you could cut their 'ball' into strips of yummy, delicious, nutritious baconbaconbaconbacon and what 'distasteful substance' does any other yield? gulp
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I prefer "Pigskin" as afterward, you could cut their 'ball' into strips of yummy, delicious, nutritious baconbaconbaconbacon and what 'distasteful substance' does any other yield? gulp


Oh, yes.
And the game doesn't even have a ball - they have .... mmmmm...what? A almost sphere like object...?
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New name:

Tackle prolate spheroid.
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I can't believe nobody has given the serious answer yet.

The sports in question were originally called such to distinguish them from sports where all the players rode around on horses. Hence, anything called "football" is a sport where a ball is involved and you run around on your own feet. Association football (often shortened to soccer), American (or gridiron) football, what have you.
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binraix wrote:
New name:

Tackle prolate spheroid.
surprise There is also flag prolate spheroid... whistle
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Yeah! and what's with a "Rugby Scrum" during a 'Hockey Game' whence "Boxing Day" broke out? robot
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The sports in question were originally called such to distinguish them from sports where all the players rode around on horses. Hence, anything called "football" is a sport where a ball is involved and you run around on your own feet.

An alternate explanation is that the name came because, in all of these sports, a ball was kicked with your foot. And, in fact, in the early days of American football, kicking was a much more prevalent aspect of the sport. The ball was much rounder; it started drifting toward its current, more pointed shape after the introduction of the forward pass around 1910 or so.

It's always amusing to hear how surprised/outraged non-Americans are that sports, like everything else in life, evolve. So baseball and cricket are both evolutions of rounders and Association football, American football, Canadian football, Australian Rules football, and rugby all have a common ancestor. Given that North America and Australia are separated from Europe by large bodies of water, it's not surprising that the sports evolved differently, but the names remained the same.

What's funny is that people keep applying modern-day logic to the nomenclature of sports that are well over a century old. Take basketball--there are no baskets in the modern game, only a hoop and a net. We call it a "basket", but any farmer unacquainted with the game would think you're nuts for using the term. Of course, originally, the game was played with a peach basket nailed to a post: that's a basket! But no vestiges of that remain today.

The same is true of football. The games evolved, and did so differently in different geographic areas, but the names are the same as they were at their origins. What's so hard to understand about that?
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The sports in question were originally called such to distinguish them from sports where all the players rode around on horses. Hence, anything called "football" is a sport where a ball is involved and you run around on your own feet.

An alternate explanation is that the name came because, in all of these sports, a ball was kicked with your foot.

An alternate explanation, also known as the wrong explanation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28word%29#Etymology
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I'm going with "FootThrowKickball" with being M~O~R~E American as "Scrapple" pie gulp
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Why is it called football?


Because it kicks ass!!!
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Leezer wrote:
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The sports in question were originally called such to distinguish them from sports where all the players rode around on horses. Hence, anything called "football" is a sport where a ball is involved and you run around on your own feet.

An alternate explanation is that the name came because, in all of these sports, a ball was kicked with your foot.

An alternate explanation, also known as the wrong explanation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28word%29#Etymology

Huh? Let me quote from the above referenced article:

"Although it is widely assumed that the word football, or "foot ball", originated in reference to the action of a foot kicking a ball, this may be a false etymology." (emphisis mine)

And later on:

"However, there is no conclusive evidence for either hypothesis regarding the origins of the word."

Your hypothesis may be correct, but the Wikipedia article you cite provides no evidence of that.

But let's not argue about what was named by who; let's keep yelling at the non-Americans who don't want us calling our sport football! cool
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Yes, and 2 or more dice involved NAUGHT from Scotland were STILL "craps" derivative! surprise
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Well, I've had a good look through the Wikipedia article on American Football. 41,000 concussions per year in high school players alone? Let's call it Concussion Ball!
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Well, I've had a good look through the Wikipedia article on American Football. 41,000 concussions per year in high school players alone? Let's call it Concussion Ball!


Hockey could be concussion puck, boxing could be concussion fist, and soccer could be concussion ball pt 2!
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Well, I've had a good look through the Wikipedia article on American Football. 41,000 concussions per year in high school players alone? Let's call it Concussion Ball!


Hockey could be concussion puck, boxing could be concussion fist, and soccer could be concussion ball pt 2!


Ooo, I like it! Except... do soccer players get concussions in anything even remotely like the same numbers?
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That is very 'true', so in order to "make up" on that 'aspect', then they should HAVE to use a "bowling ball" now. goo
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Ooo, I like it! Except... do soccer players get concussions in anything even remotely like the same numbers?

Of course not. It's not like they're smashing their foreheads into a hard soccer ball traveling at high speeds or anything! shake

(And yes, this has led to some concussions and is a subject of some recent concern in Association Football circuits. But no, the number of concussions doesn't seem to be remotely close to those that stem from American football. We're still #1!!!)
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Well, I've had a good look through the Wikipedia article on American Football. 41,000 concussions per year in high school players alone? Let's call it Concussion Ball!


Hockey could be concussion puck, boxing could be concussion fist, and soccer could be concussion ball pt 2!


Ooo, I like it! Except... do soccer players get concussions in anything even remotely like the same numbers?


Good point, maybe concussion ball pt 2 gives soccer too much prominence.

Concussion ball jr it is!
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Ooo, I like it! Except... do soccer players get concussions in anything even remotely like the same numbers?

Of course not. It's not like they're smashing their foreheads into a hard soccer ball traveling at high speeds or anything! shake


Oops, forgot about that bit!

As a complete aside, my daughters and I are watching an animated movie right now. Here's what I found myself saying to my eldest (6 y.o.) not 5 minutes ago:

"The sport of baseball does not typically involve throwing cows."
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