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Robert Teves II
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About to order my copy of the game, was wondering what quantity of which size sleeves I would need for it. Thanks in advance.
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This just seems like a funny idea to me, considering that some of the cards will get torn up and thrown in the trash.
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Thanks for the helpful comment!
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Seriously, the cards don't get used frequently enough that you'll need protectors for them unless you have very clumsy friends. If you're anal enough about putting protectors on every card for every game you play, are you sure you're going to be able to bring yourself to play this game correctly?
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Thanks for the helpful comment!
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poeticallybored wrote:
Thanks for the helpful comment!


I actually think that they are giving you helpful comments, but the way I'm reading your responses to them, I think you're giving them a "thanks for nothing" comment. If I'm wrong in my interpretation of what you're saying, I apologize, and please disregard the rest of what I have to say.

I don't know the size sleeve that you'd need, but what you're being advised on is that you can really save yourself the expense and trouble of sleeving the Risk: Legacy cards, because they really shouldn't need the protection, given the gameplay.

This game will not look like a pristine museum piece. And the cards won't get used so much that they'll get damaged from heavy play.
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WhiteKnight85 wrote:
poeticallybored wrote:
Thanks for the helpful comment!


I actually think that they are giving you helpful comments, but the way I'm reading your responses to them, I think you're giving them a "thanks for nothing" comment. If I'm wrong in my interpretation of what you're saying, I apologize, and please disregard the rest of what I have to say.

I don't know the size sleeve that you'd need, but what you're being advised on is that you can really save yourself the expense and trouble of sleeving the Risk: Legacy cards, because they really shouldn't need the protection, given the gameplay.

This game will not look like a pristine museum piece. And the cards won't get used so much that they'll get damaged from heavy play.
Exactly what Steven said.
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I could have any number of reasons for wanting to sleeve my cards that are of no concern to either of you. I have a question that I need answered, and if you don't have an answer for me, you don't need to reply to me.
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The only sleeves that come close (and by that I mean not well at all) are Yu-Gi-Oh sleeves.

And I also agree that sleeving them is pointless unless your intent is to prevent them from being marked (i.e. make the game erasable).
 
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poeticallybored wrote:
I could have any number of reasons for wanting to sleeve my cards that are of no concern to either of you. I have a question that I need answered, and if you don't have an answer for me, you don't need to reply to me.
Don't forget that this is the internet, where pretty much everybody gets responses in their threads that they aren't looking for.
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poeticallybored wrote:
I could have any number of reasons for wanting to sleeve my cards that are of no concern to either of you. I have a question that I need answered, and if you don't have an answer for me, you don't need to reply to me.


But they/we did have an answer for you. Many is the time that I've asked a question only to find out from someone being helpful that I was getting off track and that I didn't need to be concerned in that area, or perhaps that I was asking the wrong question.

And less frequently I found myself still wanting to know the answer to my original question. When that is the case I politely thank the people who are trying to be helpful, but explain that I'm still looking for the answer to my OP.

Either way I recognize and acknowledge that people were just trying to help me out, and I appreciate it, even when their good intentions don't give me the help I'm looking for.
 
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Robert,

The quantity you seek is a fluctuating number. The amount of cards changes with every other game as you destroy cards and or open up packs. Additionally, the cards are an odd size and probably won't fit in a standard sleeve. I'll check tonight.
 
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Sleeves for this game could makes sense, once stickers are on cards, shuffling becomes a bit problematic, we've had a couple cases where cards get stuck to each other. I haven't sleeved the cards, and don't plan to, but it's not a silly question.




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Boy, wouldn't everyone here feel like jackasses if the point was to allow a friend who has a physical disability causing excessive drooling to play the game without damaging the cards (in a manner outside the "normal" damage that will occur)?




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kjamma4 wrote:
Boy, wouldn't everyone here feel like jackasses if the point was to allow a friend who has a physical disability causing excessive drooling to play the game without damaging the cards (in a manner outside the "normal" damage that will occur)?


Then he should have also asked about the board dimensions, and what size of sleeve he needs to protect the board.

I kid, I kid....
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Clearly this thread is an example of the range of answers you get when you fail to explain your intention.

Robert Teves II says that sleeving is for a reason of "no concern to either of you", yet seems surprised when people make (rather obvious, apparently false) assumptions about the intent of the original question.

Based on the irregular size of the cards, the fact that they are intended to be permanently modified and other statements by the game designers, it seems that Hasbro had no intention of these cards being sleeved. 15 plays is hardly enough to cause wear.

Given that the OP made it clear that he did not own the set yet, coaching a person that does not yet own the product on its intended use should come as no surprise, even to the OP.

Aside from a concept based on playing the set without permanently changing it (not sure how you would keep stickers in a state where they would be re-usable), I can't think of any reason why you would want to protect this set's cards with sleeves. I'm really, really curious.

Is Robert sure that he won't tell us his secret plan?
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Count me very much in the "why on God's green earth are you sleeving this?" camp, but the cards are 56mm x 77mm.

//edit: as for quantity, I believe the game says "at least 175 cards". I have no idea the actual top end number.
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lomn wrote:
Count me very much in the "why on God's green earth are you sleeving this?" camp, but the cards are 56mm x 77mm.

//edit: as for quantity, I believe the game says "at least 175 cards". I have no idea the actual top end number.


I was very much in this camp as well until cleaning up after our 8th game. Our group has opened all the packs by this point, and I've changed my mind. I've found three reasons to sleeve the cards in the game. (BEWARE of SPOILER)

1. This game is horrifyingly fun and playable. For every "scarring" game we play with our group, my wife and I play three or four "non-scarring" games. I estimate that the game has been played around thirty times so far. Why, yes, we have gotten our money's worth! And the cards are showing more wear than any of our other games.

2. We only have around ten or fifteen coin stickers left on the sticker sheet. Many of the resource cards have two or more stickers on them. And the stickers are maybe a fraction of a millimeter thick--but they do stand out from the card. Due to shuffling and general use, the sticker edges are wearing on the resouce cards. Not much, but enough to sleeve.

Placement of the world capital sticker:

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3. The private-mission stickers will be "in play" and shuffled for quite some time. We have a Lead Faction on our Earth, so currently missions get chosen. Frequently it is the sea-line mission. No one has won it yet: the private-mission stickers (I think there are five) will not all get placed for possibly another ten or fifteen games. I want to keep them in good condition until they get placed in the red slot on the faction cards.


So I will soon be sleeving my cards.
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[q="lomn"]Count me very much in the "why on God's green earth are you sleeving this?" camp, but the cards are 56mm x 77mm.

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3. The private-mission stickers will be "in play" and shuffled for quite some time. We have a Lead Faction on our Earth, so currently missions get chosen. Frequently it is the sea-line mission. No one has won it yet: the private-mission stickers (I think there are five) will not all get placed for possibly another ten or fifteen games. I want to keep them in good condition until they get placed in the red slot on the faction cards.


So I will soon be sleeving my cards.


Sure would be nice if you told us what pack this spoiler is connected to so I can determine whether or not it is safe for me to read it.
 
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Grantor wrote:
August222 wrote:
[q="lomn"]Count me very much in the "why on God's green earth are you sleeving this?" camp, but the cards are 56mm x 77mm.

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3. The private-mission stickers will be "in play" and shuffled for quite some time. We have a Lead Faction on our Earth, so currently missions get chosen. Frequently it is the sea-line mission. No one has won it yet: the private-mission stickers (I think there are five) will not all get placed for possibly another ten or fifteen games. I want to keep them in good condition until they get placed in the red slot on the faction cards.


So I will soon be sleeving my cards.


Sure would be nice if you told us what pack this spoiler is connected to so I can determine whether or not it is safe for me to read it.


Sorry about that. Fixed.
 
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Little late, but I was referred to these as "the closest fit"

http://store.fantasyflightgames.com/productdetails.cfm?SKU=F...
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I don't have an answer, but I totally understand the desire for sleeves. When territory cards start having 4+ coins on them, you don't want to A) have stickers come off while shuffling or B) accidentally influence your shuffling.
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I ended up going with the standard ultra pro sleeves.

Now that all the coin stickers have been placed and all the cards have been sleeved, we can shuffle the resource deck like we mean it.
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card sleeves would be very good if you intend on printing up your own cards and mixing them in with the standard cards. Such as home made expansions and variants. But the sleeves would have to have opaque backs.
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You could just laminate them. That's what I have done to mine in my 'reset-able' version of the game.
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