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It is never a bad season when you beat the Dallas Cowboys ("America's Team", my ass) twice. That my New York Giants won the division is just gravy . . .

Tonight's game once again reiterated that Tony Romo will never be an elite QB. Forget stats and all the rest of it. The man literally doesn't know the rules of the game.
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Well, as for my gloat, I guess I'm just thinking that even though the Steelers will be on the road, and they just lost their number one running back, and their QB is still limping around, and their free safety may not be able to play due to a medical condition, I'm still utterly unconcerned about their game with Denver. Steelers are a little banged up, but still look awfully strong at 12-4, with, once again, the number one ranked defense in terms of yards and points allowed.

Hey Warren Sapp, how old and slow does that Steelers' D look now? Yeah, that's what I thought. devil
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nycavri wrote:
Tonight's game once again reiterated that Tony Romo will never be an elite QB. Forget stats and all the rest of it. The man literally doesn't know the rules of the game.

Well, I'm a Giants fan (and very happy that they made the playoffs) and I have no idea what you're talking about. In the first half, with his hand clearly bothering him, Romo still completed most of his passes (with one obvious and costly exception). In the second half, he looked great. When the score was 21-14, I was very fearful--this year, the Giants' defense is perfectly capable of coughing up a 21 point lead. Thankfully, the offense righted itself (helped by the porous Dallas secondary) and it all turned out fine. But I thought Romo had a good game under difficult circumstances. Dallas lost because their secondary and front line sucked, just like it has all year.
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Years ago the Redskins were 2-14. The only two games they won that entire year were the two against the Cowboys. Redskins fans considered it a successful season.
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nycavri wrote:
Tonight's game once again reiterated that Tony Romo will never be an elite QB.

This has been my thought for the past several seasons. He's like a crappy version of Brett Favre. He makes some great plays, but also so many bonehead plays at critical moments that just make you shake your head. It's just that the great plays are so much less frequent than with Brett, so the reward isn't worth all the risk.
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Earlier this year one of the pundits on the NFL channel actually said Romo was a "lock for the hall of fame". I just about hurt myself laughing but it was an example of how some folks simply want so bad for him to be more than what he actually is.
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It's also time to enjoy things out in San Diego. Chargers fans SHOULD be getting late Christmas presents in a new head coach and quite likely a new general manager!

Stuffing the Raiders from the playoffs is a bonus.
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Here in KC it looks like the Chiefs found their new head coach in Romeo Crennel.

Looks like there are going to be a lot of open head coach spots to fill soon. Miami, San Diego, St Louis, Jacksonville and maybe Dallas, Indianapolis and Tampa Bay (although I think Morris will survive in Tampa).
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mrbeankc wrote:
Here in KC it looks like the Chiefs found their new head coach in Romeo Crennel.

Looks like there are going to be a lot of open head coach spots to fill soon. Miami, San Diego, St Louis, Jacksonville and maybe Dallas, Indianapolis and Tampa Bay (although I think Morris will survive in Tampa).


I like Romeo. I hope it works out. As a former Iowan, I always liked the Chiefs. They're the only AFC team I do like.
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The Colts played their way to the 1st draft pick . . . and we didn't go winless.
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The Colts played their way to the 1st draft pick . . . and we didn't go winless.


Congratulations gulp
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Larry Levy wrote:
nycavri wrote:
Tonight's game once again reiterated that Tony Romo will never be an elite QB. Forget stats and all the rest of it. The man literally doesn't know the rules of the game.


Well, I'm a Giants fan (and very happy that they made the playoffs) and I have no idea what you're talking about.


Mid 2nd quarter. 3rd and long. He throws an illegal forward pass. Fair enough - it happens. But then he turns to the ref and clearly says, "It's still 3rd down, right?"

Sorry, but an elite NFL Quarterback knows the rules, especially regarding passing penalties. I would hope even mid tier QB's know the rules. Maybe even Trent Dilfer . . .

Add to this Romo's insistance on a measurement after failing to convert on 4th and short (the spot may have been generous to the Giants, but from that spot there was *no* reason for a measurement. Challenge the spot? Go for it. But measure?) he's both clueless and classless . . .
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Man, none of you know how to gloat....

Our offense is so good that our back up QB now holds the franchise record for yards and TD passes in a game at 480 yards and 6 TD. That is right, our back up QB put up those numbers against another playoff team.

Just saying...
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Orangemoose wrote:
Larry Welborn wrote:
The Colts played their way to the 1st draft pick . . . and we didn't go winless.


Congratulations gulp


Hey you take your gloats as you find them.
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The season did not fair so well for my Raiders, though it wasn't unexpected.

Yet, this was the first year I played Fantasy and did manage to win. I'll spend the off season rubbing that in.
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The season did not fair so well for my Raiders, though it wasn't unexpected.

Yet, this was the first year I played Fantasy and did manage to win. I'll spend the off season rubbing that in.


I hope Jacoby Ford is healthy next year. He is one of my favorite Clemson players.
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1nf1n1ty wrote:
The season did not fair so well for my Raiders, though it wasn't unexpected.

Yet, this was the first year I played Fantasy and did manage to win. I'll spend the off season rubbing that in.


You guys should be pleased with an 8-8 record. It's progress, and you got wins outside the division this year!
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And so, it begins. Raheem Morris and Steve Spagnuolo are already out at Tampa Bay and St. Louis, respectively, along with the Rams' General Manager.
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And so, it begins. Raheem Morris and Steve Spagnuolo are already out at Tampa Bay and St. Louis, respectively, along with the Rams' General Manager.


And Spagnuolo moves to Philadelphia to become defensive coordinator (if you believe the rumors)
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nycavri wrote:
Mid 2nd quarter. 3rd and long. He throws an illegal forward pass. Fair enough - it happens. But then he turns to the ref and clearly says, "It's still 3rd down, right?"

Okay, I'd forgotten about the illegal pass. That really wasn't close; he was obviously disoriented, but a QB needs to have more field awareness than that. So yeah, that was bad.

And I didn't see him say anything to the ref. If that's true, that's also bad, but I'm not going to torch him on it. From what I've seen, Romo is both a talented and smart player (I recall the game where he had to position all his offensive teammates, because they didn't know how to line up). I laughed when Donovan McNabb didn't know that ties were possible in overtime, but I still think he was a great player.

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Add to this Romo's insistance on a measurement after failing to convert on 4th and short (the spot may have been generous to the Giants, but from that spot there was *no* reason for a measurement. Challenge the spot? Go for it. But measure?) he's both clueless and classless . . .

Romo was screaming that the refs didn't give him forward progress and he may have been right. As for demanding a measurement, hey, that's part of the game. You employ every legal move that increases your chances of winning. Maybe it was a pointless request, but it had nothing to do with "class", particularly at such a critical and frustrating time.

If you really want to find chinks in a player's armor, you can almost always find plays during a game that will support your position. But in a game where most of the Dallas players didn't show up, I thought Romo had one of their few good games on Sunday and he did it with a busted up hand. Romo bears some responsibility for his rep, but in many ways he's the Anti-Favre, in that fans and the media focus far more on his occasional failures than on his overall excellent and sometimes brilliant play.
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Looks like I was wrong about Morris surviving in Tampa. He got the ax this morning. The Rams fired not only the head coach but the GM as well.

More heads are sure to roll.
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Mid 2nd quarter. 3rd and long. He throws an illegal forward pass. Fair enough - it happens. But then he turns to the ref and clearly says, "It's still 3rd down, right?"

Okay, I'd forgotten about the illegal pass. That really wasn't close; he was obviously disoriented, but a QB needs to have more field awareness than that. So yeah, that was bad.

And I didn't see him say anything to the ref. If that's true, that's also bad, but I'm not going to torch him on it. From what I've seen, Romo is both a talented and smart player (I recall the game where he had to position all his offensive teammates, because they didn't know how to line up). I laughed when Donovan McNabb didn't know that ties were possible in overtime, but I still think he was a great player.

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Add to this Romo's insistance on a measurement after failing to convert on 4th and short (the spot may have been generous to the Giants, but from that spot there was *no* reason for a measurement. Challenge the spot? Go for it. But measure?) he's both clueless and classless . . .

Romo was screaming that the refs didn't give him forward progress and he may have been right. As for demanding a measurement, hey, that's part of the game. You employ every legal move that increases your chances of winning. Maybe it was a pointless request, but it had nothing to do with "class", particularly at such a critical and frustrating time.

If you really want to find chinks in a player's armor, you can almost always find plays during a game that will support your position. But in a game where most of the Dallas players didn't show up, I thought Romo had one of their few good games on Sunday and he did it with a busted up hand. Romo bears some responsibility for his rep, but in many ways he's the Anti-Favre, in that fans and the media focus far more on his occasional failures than on his overall excellent and sometimes brilliant play.


I can't stand Romo or the Cowboys, but you do make a valid argument here. soblue
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I can't stand Romo or the Cowboys, but you do make a valid argument here. soblue


I disagree. There is no excuse for not knowing the rule.

Compare with Eli a couple of years back, who was flagged for the same penalty - illegal forward pass. He immediately signalled to Coughlin to challenge, which he did. The fans, the commentators, everybody thinks they've both lost their minds - Eli seems to be clearly a foot or two beyond the line of scrimmage. Challenge was upheld, call reversed, and we all learned that a pass is legal if any part of the QB is level with the LoS. Eli knew it, and left a foot behind as he scrambled and threw.

Romo thinks he can throw a forward pass 5 yards past the LoS and get the down back . . .
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