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Engage Anti-Media Rant:

Look, I, more than most, appreciate a loss by the Steelers, but I am sick and tired of all the "80 yard pass to win the game" garbage. It was, at most, a 20 yard pass with 60 yards after catch. Where is the Wide Receivers song? What about a song extolling the virtues of a coach that called a long pass when the other team was looking run? The stupid sports media overblows Tebow and the dumb songwriters follows their lead.

Tom Brady deliver us from evil.

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Tom Brady deliver us from evil.


This is nothing, you should read to non-stop tebile streaming out of my Facebook feed. I am seriously thinking about removing all family from the list.
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Tom Brady deliver us from evil.


This is nothing, you should read to non-stop tebile streaming out of my Facebook feed. I am seriously thinking about removing all family from the list.


"Tebile", huh?

That monstrous new word gets a thumb from me, for it's sheer horror!
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Well an article I read about this made me feel really old.

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[url] http://www.pbpulse.com/music/2012/01/11/broncos-meet-brat-pa... [/url]

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(Cultural note for those under 35 — St. Elmo’s Fire was a movie starring a bunch of then-young actors dubbed The Brat Pack, including Charlie Sheen’s brother, Ashton Kutcher’s soon-to-be ex-wife, Meredith Grey’s dead stepmother from Grey’s Anatomy and Chris Traeger from Parks and Recreation. It was about the difficulty of being middle-class, gorgeous Georgetown graduates in a Reagan-era world that just didn’t give breaks to people like them. Snerk.)


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Quarterbacks are always over-rated. The best pass in the world is useless without a guy who can catch, and a very high percentage of catches are NOT from the best pass in the world but instead plucked out of a melee of arms and held onto despite several hundred pounds of thug smashing into the guy who just caught it, but its always the quarterback who gets most of thecredit.

Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.


Quarterbacks are over-rated, but you also shouldn't underestimate how much a good quarterback can motivate a team. It isn't all about arm strength and accuracy. A lot of (American) football players have been taught since their first day running plays to look to the quarterback as a sort of leader.

As far as it being a "Stupid bloody sport": Nobody has ever won a "which sport is better" argument
 
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MyTwoCents wrote:
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Quarterbacks are always over-rated. The best pass in the world is useless without a guy who can catch, and a very high percentage of catches are NOT from the best pass in the world but instead plucked out of a melee of arms and held onto despite several hundred pounds of thug smashing into the guy who just caught it, but its always the quarterback who gets most of thecredit.

Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.


Quarterbacks are over-rated, but you also shouldn't underestimate how much a good quarterback can motivate a team. It isn't all about arm strength and accuracy. A lot of (American) football players have been taught since their first day running plays to look to the quarterback as a sort of leader.

As far as it being a "Stupid bloody sport": Nobody has ever won a "which sport is better" argument


There is an objective problem with both baseball and American football, which is also why American TV loves them. Ridiculous amounts of downtime (and hence room for ads). there's just less sport in any given hour in either sport than their is in most other sports. TV in the USA has an issue with soccer for example, because there are no natural breaks to stick ads in.

I also HATE American commentators, who never seem to get emotionally involved in the action and are usually talking about other things and ignoring whats actually happening - indeed it's the commentators that prevent me really enjoyed American sport.


Americans have an issue with soccer as many feel it's incredibly boring. Sure, there's no downtime, however there's also very little happening while it's playing.
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Quarterbacks are always over-rated. The best pass in the world is useless without a guy who can catch, and a very high percentage of catches are NOT from the best pass in the world but instead plucked out of a melee of arms and held onto despite several hundred pounds of thug smashing into the guy who just caught it, but its always the quarterback who gets most of thecredit.

Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.


Quarterbacks are over-rated, but you also shouldn't underestimate how much a good quarterback can motivate a team. It isn't all about arm strength and accuracy. A lot of (American) football players have been taught since their first day running plays to look to the quarterback as a sort of leader.

As far as it being a "Stupid bloody sport": Nobody has ever won a "which sport is better" argument


There is an objective problem with both baseball and American football, which is also why American TV loves them. Ridiculous amounts of downtime (and hence room for ads). there's just less sport in any given hour in either sport than their is in most other sports. TV in the USA has an issue with soccer for example, because there are no natural breaks to stick ads in.

I also HATE American commentators, who never seem to get emotionally involved in the action and are usually talking about other things and ignoring whats actually happening - indeed it's the commentators that prevent me really enjoyed American sport.


Americans have an issue with soccer as many feel it's incredibly boring. Sure, there's no downtime, however there's also very little happening while it's playing.


Its obvious that those sports fans who think soccer is boring are missing the point of the game entirely, since many millions the world over are extraordinarily passionate about it - they are not pretending to be excited, its just the game has a different pace and rhythm. In fact for those brought up on soccer sports where scoring is frequent seem boring because the value of any given score is reduced by familiarity.

Some of the best games of soccer I've ever seen finished 1-0, and there's no other sport capable of generating the kind of massive emotional release that, for example, Spain's winning goal in the 2010 world cup created, coming as it did after 114 minutes of tension.

Soccer, like any other sport, is much more fun to watch when you are used to it, and much more fun if you have an emotional investment in one of the teams. Think of it as being a little like boxing, you won't get many knockouts, but the rest of the match builds up to it.

American sports are not boring, but the downtime is


I think part of the problem Soccer has in North America is people often don't understand where the tension is. They don't know what a dangerous position on the field is, so until someone is striking from point blank range they aren't engaged.
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MyTwoCents wrote:
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Engage Anti-Media Rant:

Look, I, more than most, appreciate a loss by the Steelers, but I am sick and tired of all the "80 yard pass to win the game" garbage. It was, at most, a 20 yard pass with 60 yards after catch. Where is the Wide Receivers song? What about a song extolling the virtues of a coach that called a long pass when the other team was looking run? The stupid sports media overblows Tebow and the dumb songwriters follows their lead.

Tom Brady deliver us from evil.

Disengage Anti-Media Rant.


Quarterbacks are always over-rated. The best pass in the world is useless without a guy who can catch, and a very high percentage of catches are NOT from the best pass in the world but instead plucked out of a melee of arms and held onto despite several hundred pounds of thug smashing into the guy who just caught it, but its always the quarterback who gets most of thecredit.

Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.

No, they're not. Nobody thinks John Skelton or Kevin Kolb are great QB's but everyone knows that Larry Fitzgerald makes them both look good. It is a fact that you need "good" QB play to win in the NFL. You may not need "great", especially if the rest of the team is solid, but teams with shitty QB's lose invariably, no matter how good the rest of the side is.

I'm a Kiwi (and Aussie) and I prefer the NFL to Rugby, but I like both. Rugby has many breakdowns, tiresome scrum re-sets, and worst of all it is a difficult game to referee, leading to frequent bad calls and shoddy rule interpretation. It is not as stop start as American football but I certainly wouldn't call it it a free flowing game.

American football is as close to a tactical war game as sport can get. Its stop start nature allows mind games, bluffing and trickery, none of which can be achieved on a rugby or soccer pitch.
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Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.


American football is the best team sport* and I will prove it to you.

I play boardgames. I like my competition turn-based. There's more room for deliberation and intricate planning with American football's turn-based structure than there is in soccer, basketball, hockey, what have you. Despite also having a turn-based structure, baseball is less deep because it essentially boils down to just pitcher versus hitter rather than 11 moving parts trying to counter 11 other moving parts; each individual play is both incredibly intricate AND able to be analyzed in isolation, which increases the available strategic depth. Gridiron football is chesslike in a way that no other team sports can approach, and I find that to be an unalloyed good.

I don't find the low scores of soccer "boring", but I do think that the extreme granularity of the sport, where just one goal is often enough to win and two is a blowout, makes the game frustratingly difficult to analyze (and following such analysis is a big part of what keeps me engaged as a fan). Furthermore, said low scores makes it harder to distinguish between skill levels, as getting just one fluky goal is often enough for the inferior team to win.

The best individual sport, by the way, is tennis, and there's even less of a question there than there is for team sports.

*The ruleset of Canadian football is just as good as its big brother down south, but it doesn't attract the same level of athletic and coaching talent. I am willing to hear arguments for the superiority of cricket, but suspect that it suffers from the same one-dimensionality that baseball does.
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Thats an argument for American football being a better GAME, but games and sports are not the same thing, and I would wager that you know nothing about Rugby League, which is similar, but freer flowing, without the downtime or extreme specialisation, you can see the players' faces too. it has simpler rules that rugby union and is hence easier to referee well. Most football fans, introduced to rugby league suddenly see everything thats wrong with the sport they previously loved. Rugby league, as played in the Australian NRL is probably the world's best team sport, though I personally prefer soccer for the emotional connection I have with it, and the fact its a game anyone can play with just a ball and 4 coats to use as goalposts.

In the end though the biggest problem I have with American sport is that awful, dull, passionless commentary style.


Rugby League is perhaps the world's most dull contact team sport. Honestly, the game is almost entirely bereft any tactical variation whatsoever. It consists Twenty six men bludgeoning/dry humping each other to a pulp for 5 tackles before aiming a kick to the in-goal with the hope your winger out-jumps the opposing fullback. Its a severely dumbed-down Rugby Union for dumbed-down people.

The only thing I dislike about American commentary is that lack of used synonyms for the words "talked about". "Talked about" is irritatingly overused. How about throwing in a "discussed" or "I mentioned earlier".

If the commentary was really an issue, you could always mute it.



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MyTwoCents wrote:

In the end though the biggest problem I have with American sport is that awful, dull, passionless commentary style.


I agree - I'm frequently tempted to switch to local radio for the last quarter of Husker football games because the commentators have so obviously lost interest in the game they're being paid to comment on - they'll talk about the next game, the previous game, what they're planning to do after the game.... it's pretty insufferable

Unfortunately, the FCC has made watching a game while listening to the radio virtually impossible due to their damnable 3-second delay to make sure that nobody sees Janet Jackson's boob again shake
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People arguing over which sport is better is like people arguing that blue is a more interesting paint colour to watch dry than green ;)


Dude, everyone knows that blue paint dries in a much more appealing way than boring old green. :whistle:
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No, it really isn't. The atmosphere at an NRL game is the best I've experienced at any sporting event outside the English Premier League.


You need to get yourself to a blockbuster match at the MCG sometime Mark. Anzac Day, Collingwood vs Essendon being among ~85000 rabid fanatics, its insane. Its a shame the AFL hasn't had more traction in NZ, once you scratch through the quaint, parochial surface its a pretty good game.

I know NRL fans are committed, but they simply don't get the numbers to matches to really build a big atmosphere.

 
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Stupid bloody sport. "Turn-based rugby" by friend calls it. I was at 7 of the games at the rugby world cup last year, including both semi-finals and the final, and its a much, much better game.


American football is the best team sport* and I will prove it to you.

I play boardgames. I like my competition turn-based. There's more room for deliberation and intricate planning with American football's turn-based structure than there is in soccer, basketball, hockey, what have you. Despite also having a turn-based structure, baseball is less deep because it essentially boils down to just pitcher versus hitter rather than 11 moving parts trying to counter 11 other moving parts; each individual play is both incredibly intricate AND able to be analyzed in isolation, which increases the available strategic depth. Gridiron football is chesslike in a way that no other team sports can approach, and I find that to be an unalloyed good.

I don't find the low scores of soccer "boring", but I do think that the extreme granularity of the sport, where just one goal is often enough to win and two is a blowout, makes the game frustratingly difficult to analyze (and following such analysis is a big part of what keeps me engaged as a fan). Furthermore, said low scores makes it harder to distinguish between skill levels, as getting just one fluky goal is often enough for the inferior team to win.

The best individual sport, by the way, is tennis, and there's even less of a question there than there is for team sports.

*The ruleset of Canadian football is just as good as its big brother down south, but it doesn't attract the same level of athletic and coaching talent. I am willing to hear arguments for the superiority of cricket, but suspect that it suffers from the same one-dimensionality that baseball does.


Thats an argument for American football being a better GAME, but games and sports are not the same thing, and I would wager that you know nothing about Rugby League, which is similar, but freer flowing, without the downtime or extreme specialisation, you can see the players' faces too. it has simpler rules that rugby union and is hence easier to referee well. Most football fans, introduced to rugby league suddenly see everything thats wrong with the sport they previously loved. Rugby league, as played in the Australian NRL is probably the world's best team sport, though I personally prefer soccer for the emotional connection I have with it, and the fact its a game anyone can play with just a ball and 4 coats to use as goalposts.

In the end though the biggest problem I have with American sport is that awful, dull, passionless commentary style.
I've played both rugby league and american football (high school team when living in the US) .. I find rugby league gives the player much more oppotunity to show individual flair than US football ... US football required much greater adherence to what the coach said ... it's more micro-managed..... it felt more like a chess game between coaches than a battle between two teams of athletes.
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No, it really isn't. The atmosphere at an NRL game is the best I've experienced at any sporting event outside the English Premier League.


You need to get yourself to a blockbuster match at the MCG sometime Mark. Anzac Day, Collingwood vs Essendon being among ~85000 rabid fanatics, its insane. Its a shame the AFL hasn't had more traction in NZ, once you scratch through the quaint, parochial surface its a pretty good game.

I know NRL fans are committed, but they simply don't get the numbers to matches to really build a big atmosphere.

to born and bred rugby league fans... afl appears to be a few hours of seagulls fighting over hot chips.. bad tackling ... bad ball handling skills .. and points for missing the goals... Rugby league looks just as strange to a born and bred afl fan.

I've attended many pro-sports in Australia ... and with regards to your statement suggesting rugby league fans have low intelligence .. i find their crowds no different to AFL crowds and their athletes no better or worse than afl athletes in terms of off field behaviour... I'd bring my children to both afl and nrl games (and rugby union) .. it's cricket and soccer that would cause me to think twice ..
 
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