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Based on the pictures, all the players are going to be the Federation. Very disappointing. So what should the 4 races (plus the Robber) be? Remember that this appears to be set during the Original Series, so try to only use aliens/species from those episodes and movies.

4 Species - Federation, Klingon, Romulan, ???? (no idea for 4th)
Robber - Tholians (don't know if the web could go over a planet though)
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mst3k4L wrote:
4 Species - Federation, Klingon, Romulan, ???? (no idea for 4th)


The Vulcans obviously.
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The Ferengi never get enough respect.

Their rules of acquisition make them perfect for a trading game like Catan.
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DarrinWilliams wrote:

The Ferengi never get enough respect.

Their rules of acquisition make them perfect for a trading game like Catan.


The Ferengi should be the robber!
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NateStraight wrote:
DarrinWilliams wrote:

The Ferengi never get enough respect.

Their rules of acquisition make them perfect for a trading game like Catan.


The Ferengi should be the robber!

ferengi for the robber and vulcan for the 4th race
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Yeah, this doesn't make all that much sense to me to begin with, really, but in particular that the Federation is playing against itself. I could definitely see it being competitive with the Federation against the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians, or something like that. That would be an interesting premise. And they could have Q be the robber, or the Ferengi. But anyway... I love Catan and Star Trek, but this seems weird as it is.
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Vulcans are included in the federation so they're out.

The only others I can think of are Ferengi and Cardassian. I'd go with the Ferengi. I like the idea as Q as the robber.

I don't think the theme quite fits. What are the resources? I play Settlers and like Star Trek but don't think the two mix well.
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Blue is the Andorian Feds, Red the Vulcan Feds, White the Human feds (uh oh), and Yellow the Horta wow

Yellow are the Eugenic Feds?

Anyway, they really should have "quadro-triticale" as the Wheat resource.

Also the PORTS can be where the klingons and roms come in.

Maybe the robber could be the Organians.
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The Robber should be an event marker. This would add some of the flavor of the TV shows:

It still shuts down the planet, and the player who places it still gets to take a resource, but a player who has a starbase or starships (which are going to be the roads, right?) touching the hex can attempt to beam down to the planet and resolve the event.

The event being a card that is drawn from an event deck with a nice flavorful description of the event and what the player has to do to resolve it (show or discard development cards -- which could be crew -- and resources, roll dice, use the stats of their faction's reference card, etc).

If they try and fail, depending on how badly they fail, they might endanger the neighboring starbases and starships. Or provide some benefit to the player who placed the Robber/Event.

If they try and succeed the Robber/Event gets removed and maybe they get a bonus resource or get to keep the card as a VP.

Add some of the series' diplomatic aspects:

The player who places the Robber/Event and the player he steals a resource from are considered to be "on the brink of war" with each other until the event is resolved or the Robber moves again. Being on the brink of war would have some gnarly and interesting game effects like: No trading between those two, they can't have starships on adjacent sides of a hex -- if they do, the starships fight, etc.

Add some of the series' space combat aspects:

Oh, and if a player gets boxed in and wants to put down a new road (sorry -- starship) they should be able to fight the other roads (sorry, starships) to take their place on the board. If a starbase is cut off from all starships it gets removed from the board or replaced by another player's piece.

Some of the faction-specific flavor:

The Romulans and Klingons would have the Cloaking special ability (among some others, of course).

Cloaking would enable a starship (at an additional cost) to be placed on the same border as a starship from another faction.

One of the development cards could potentially cancel the cloaking (and remove the ship or at least start a fight) for one specific link.


Apart from the event deck, none of this even requires any new components, except maybe a reminder token if you want to keep track of who's "on the brink of war" with each other.
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Klingons, Romulans,Feds and ... Gorn!
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I was originally thinking Federation, Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians, and then have the Borg as the Robber, but 2 of them weren't in the original series.
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heirodule wrote:
Anyway, they really should have "quadro-triticale" as the Wheat resource.

a bajillion thumbsup if I could.
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Vulcans are included in the federation so they're out.

The only others I can think of are Ferengi and Cardassian. I'd go with the Ferengi. I like the idea as Q as the robber.

I don't think the theme quite fits. What are the resources? I play Settlers and like Star Trek but don't think the two mix well.


I agree with James on this one. Settlers of catan is fine as it is.
 
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It should be:

4 players = Federation, Klingons, Romulans, and Gorns
Robber = Orions

If the Klingons are the Robber, then I guess it’s friendly competition amongst the Federation: Earthmen, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites.
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Fed, Romulans, Klingon, Gorn.

robber is Harry Mudd


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If it's Kirk Era:
Federation
Klingons
Romulans
Gorn
and the robber should be a Tribble infestation.

If it's Next Generation:
Federation
Klingons
Romulans
Ferengi
and either Q or a Borg Attack for the robber

(A DS9 expansion would add Cardassians and The Dominion as players 5 and 6)

I'm at a loss to what the races should be for a Voyager themed edition set in the Delta Quadrant...except that Voyager should probably the robber in that one.
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AS others stated...Federation, Klingons, Romulans and Gorn. (I suppose you could use tholians)

The robber could be a Doomsday device or a Planet killer...
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colossus1919 wrote:
I don't think the theme quite fits. What are the resources?

According to the first pics
Dilithium
Tritanium
Food
Water
Oxygen

*underwhelmed*
 
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Let's introduce Reavers! yuk

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DarrinWilliams wrote:

The Ferengi never get enough respect.

Their rules of acquisition make them perfect for a trading game like Catan.


Is that rule of business acquisition 1026?
 
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More to the point... why isn't Star Trek Catan based on the game "Starfarers of Catan"? When I saw screenshots for this upcoming takeoff, I was honestly surprised. The "island" of Catan seems to be a less satisfactory style of gameplay for a spacefaring game of exploration.

Granted, Starfarers of Catan has not enjoyed the level of popularity that the original did. But all it needs is some tweaking. In Starfarers, the game adds the element of Encounters with other races, by way of an Encounter deck of cards. Players build ships, add modules to ships and explore the galaxy. Seems like a winning basic model for a Star Trek-themed game to me!

Pirates (Pakled),
Merchants (Ferengi),
Miners (increased resource production) (Cardassian or Klingon),
Builders (extra ship modules) (Breen)
Scientists (Vulcan)
-- and you even have "The Travelers"

Just not sure how the Romulans would fit in. Diplomatic encounters?
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mrudis65 wrote:
More to the point... why isn't Star Trek Catan based on the game "Starfarers of Catan"? When I saw screenshots for this upcoming takeoff, I was honestly surprised. The "island" of Catan seems to be a less satisfactory style of gameplay for a spacefaring game of exploration.

Granted, Starfarers of Catan has not enjoyed the level of popularity that the original did. But all it needs is some tweaking. In Starfarers, the game adds the element of Encounters with other races, by way of an Encounter deck of cards. Players build ships, add modules to ships and explore the galaxy. Seems like a winning basic model for a Star Trek-themed game to me!

Pirates (Pakled),
Merchants (Ferengi),
Miners (increased resource production) (Cardassian or Klingon),
Builders (extra ship modules) (Breen)
Scientists (Vulcan)
-- and you even have "The Travelers"

Just not sure how the Romulans would fit in. Diplomatic encounters?



That is what baffles me about this; the choice of regular Catan for this re-theming. I probably would've been all over a Starfarers Star Trek re-theme (especially since I never really played the original anyway) as it just seems to be a better fit. Island Catan Star Trek seems forced and a little silly. The bits are cool though and I would certainly pick up a thrift store copy myself. I do not see myself buying this one.
 
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I really don't agree with 're-theming' games anyway. Basically it's the same game with different art. In my mind not worth paying the same money twice(or even more due to the license for the new theme)for essentially the same game.

It's kind of like all the '80s movies being redone. Why should I pay again to see movies like Fright Night or Footloose in theatres?

I'll keep my money.
 
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GreyLord wrote:
AS others stated...Federation, Klingons, Romulans and Gorn. (I suppose you could use tholians)

The robber could be a Doomsday device or a Planet killer...


You could use a Bugle corn snack for the Planet Killer/Doomsday Machine!laugh

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