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Chunky Fighter PX 1



Koffing

Smoke Screen
When Koffing is equipped with his Smog Attack*, he cannot be targeted with called shots.

*(the yellow ones, of which there's 4 in the final graphics)

Haunter

Ghost Appearance
Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice and/or the Strike dice when it's attacked.

-NOTE: Haunter cannot reroll Called Shots-

Pikachu

Lightning Bolts
When Pikachu deals 3 or more damage succesfully, he can assign 1 damage to any other fighter, rolling the Strike Die to determine the hit location.

Gyarados

Dragon Strenght
Gyarados has two dice considered "body", and he can split damage received between those dice.





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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Toy203 wrote:

Haunter

Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice and the Strike dice when it's attacked.

Shouldn't that be:
Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice and/or the Strike dice when it's attacked.


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And for Gyarados, i love the idea of having a 4 dice Fighter, but... Maybe he can assign the Torso damages how he want?

Sounds goo to me.

Note to self:
Pokemon has 4 attack moves, not just three! Change those Weapon dice!
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?? There are only three different damage dice, so what do you mean by this??
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
l-hansen wrote:
Toy203 wrote:

Haunter

Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice and the Strike dice when it's attacked.

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Shouldn't that be:
Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice and/or the Strike dice when it's attacked.

Yep that's what i meant, thanks for the correction

Toy203 wrote:
Note to self:
Pokemon has 4 attack moves, not just three! Change those Weapon dice!

?? There are only three different damage dice, so what do you mean by this??

This is a graphic annotation, i need to create at least four different graphics for the attacks (like the original CF having a lot of different weapons), not just three like i did now.
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Toy203 wrote:
l-hansen wrote:
Toy203 wrote:
Note to self:
Pokemon has 4 attack moves, not just three! Change those Weapon dice!

?? There are only three different damage dice, so what do you mean by this??

This is a graphic annotation, i need to create at least four different graphics for the attacks (like the original CF having a lot of different weapons), not just three like i did now.

OK, got it now. But not all the original Chunky Fighters has different graphics for each attack:

Knight: 2x Sword
Tentacle Monster: 3 x Tentacle (yellow) + 1x Tentacle (white)
Carnivorous Plant: 3 x Mouth
Golem: 2 x Fist, 2 x Kick
Slime Tower: 2 x Splat, 2 x Cubes, 2 x Hammer
Space Ranger: 2 x Forcefield
Werewolf: 4 x Human, 2 x Wolf
The Bear: 3 x Claw, 2 x Jaws
Zombie: 3 x Claw, 3 x Bite

So only do it if you feel compelled to do it.
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
The Smog ability is cool, but I wouldn't put it on four sides of the die because it is pretty powerful. Three should be enough.

Haunter's ability is way too strong. Have you thought about a sleep/dream eater ability? Maybe one attack is sleep, and then you have to change weapons to get to the dream eater attack, which can instantly kill a sleeping fighter?

If Gyrados has an extra body die, he'll effectively have much more HP than other fighters. It will make it harder to kill him, or make head shot attempts more likely. Whatever you choose, if a fighter has high HP, his special abilities shouldn't be too strong.

I don't know what to do with Picachu. Maybe some kind of quick attack? How would you work paralyze?
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
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The Smog ability is cool, but I wouldn't put it on four sides of the die because it is pretty powerful. Three should be enough.

That would have to be playtestet. There are some other CF abilities that are stronger IMO, the Soldier comes to mind.

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Haunter's ability is way too strong.

I don't think so. I like it but if it's to strog it could be changed to:

Haunter can force the enemy to reroll the Hit dice or the Strike dice when it's attacked.

That would be less powerfull.

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If Gyrados has an extra body die, he'll effectively have much more HP than other fighters. It will make it harder to kill him, or make head shot attempts more likely. Whatever you choose, if a fighter has high HP, his special abilities shouldn't be too strong.

But that should be his only special ability. Having two body dice, and letting him assign damage how he likes it (unless a called shot). He should still die if one of teh body is reduced to 0.

Make the body dice different: 2-2-2-3-3-3/1-1-1-2-2-2, and I think it would work. That way he can still assign 1 damage to the 2-3 body die, and still not die.

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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Yes i was thinking the same thing about Gyarados, his ability is only to have one more body die.

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Make the body dice different: 2-2-2-3-3-3/1-1-1-2-2-2,

shouldn't this became an immortal loop? Or maybe the second body dice is not really needed, i can have the same effect with a well hp balance (maybe 6?)... But i really love the idea of having a HUGE Fighter! ^_^


I'm thinking about Haunter ability. Dream Eater should be cool (i love that move), but in a fast paced game like CF i don't see double-round ability very well, especially because you have to re-equip the dice...
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
So i made this, from the original graphics provided by the kind mr Hayes.

I don't even want to start thinking about copyright infringiment and stuff, so i guess i'm not going to upload the files here on BGG anytime soon...
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Wow, that came out looking really good! Very well made!
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Thanks! I love working with your graphic style, is really clean and sharp, it helps a lot.
I'll hope to make this an "official" epansion, but as i said, i don't want to break any copyright law about Nintendo intellectual property or something like that.
 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
That is totally awesome

 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
I hope you finish this proyect, although the copyright things... if you feel confortable with the gameplay, you won't have problems with copyrights as you don't sell the dices...
Keep working!
 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Yes, I'd like to see what fighter abilities you decided on.
 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Gosh i'm so sorry i'm soooo slow! blush
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It's OK to be slow, when you do awesome workthumbsup
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Wow, i'm impressed about the work you are doing with this. I think the same as others: keep going!
I'm waiting to see it complete soon.
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Dammit i need to finish this project! cry
I'm thinking about making opponents attack with the Weak Hit Die if Pikachu hits the Fighter, or something like that. Gosh i don't know why i'm so stuck on this. robot
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Wow, that's seriously crazy good all kinds of amazing!!!

Anyway, I finally started mounting the original Chunky Fighters, so you better finish this soon, before I run out of gas! hehehe

Seriously, I love them!
Very good work thumbsup
 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Hello,
Some ideas, first I will notice that my kids watch pokemon, I've played the N64 pokemon stadium, and the TCC... The mix beetween CF and Pokemon is a great idea, let's go before copyright lawyer specialists get their hands on it :(

Here are some points :
- pokemon do not block attacks, unless they have a specific power/attack
- pokemon do not heal, unless...
- hast attacks are unblockable and are made before all other attacks
- dig attacks are really cool !
- there is this rock/paper/scissor with the pokemon type wich add the strategic choices of your pokemons and attacks (it can be taken from the TCC wich made it very simple : one weakness and one strong against only)
- stadium can add some environnemental rules
- basic rumble is : 6 pokemon max in your team to choose from (you choose simultaneously), 3 combats each to the K.O., the best of three wins or 6 pokemon to choose from, you can use a come back action, the first to win 3 combats, wins the game (N64 style ;))

Some rules ideas to go with /!\ it changes the rules a lot :
- simultaneous hiden choice of attack with your weapon die ; hast attacks go first (even before block/dodge attacks) then other attacks in turn order
- no block/dodge unless your weapon die is showing a defense
- pokemon type (with a reminder on the ability card) : if your weak against a type go for the weak hit die, if your strong against a type go for the strong hit die regardless of your weapon die color
- disarm action should be a confusion state, unless confused you can choose your weapon die side at will at the beginning of a turn (cover your weapon die with your hand to choose your turn attack)
- some powerfull attacks would do some self damages (you need energy point in pokemon games to do some powerfull attacks)
- heal is possible if the weapon die is showing a heal attack
- come back action : you can change your pokemon, do not attack this turn, take damage from opponent attacks, begin a new turn with another pokemon (keep the first pokemon state, he can be used again)

Some ideas to keep the chunky fighter compatibility :
- hast attacks makes you the first player of the turn
- weapon change is attack change (a power can make you choose instead of rolling the weapon die)
- confusion is another name to a disarm attack, it can be a simple power to add
- heal is a power (it should be one hit recover in each die or a full recovery)
- pokemon type (strong/weak against another type of pokemon) can be added quite simply as it only affects other pokemon
- we can call them chunkymon to avoid the copyright lawyer specialists
- dig attack : if your weapon die is showing this side you can't be attacked this turn, at the begining of your next turn, roll the weapon die, if it comes to an attack, this attack can't be blocked/dodged
- dodge/block : when your weapon die is showing a dodge/block attack, you choose a side on your D8 (each player needs a set of D8 and hit dice), you block/dodge all attacks on that part, you cannot attack (even with the weak hit die) as your D8 used.

Chunky fighters really rocks !
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Wow! This looks super awesome! I can't wait.
 
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
Here's an idea for Pikachu:

Swift: When blocking successfully, Pikachu may choose what part of the body sustains one damage.
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Re: Pokemon Chunky! Need help to create characters' ability
I finished it!
I wrote the finally ability for Pikachu weeks ago, but it turned out that is very similar to the new Mercenary ability... Still, i thinks it's a very cool ability (and a very powerful ones too):

Lightning Bolts
When Pikachu deals 3 or more damage succesfully, he can assign 1 damage to any other fighter, rolling the Strike Die to determine the hit location.

So if anyone wants to receive an email, just drop me a PM ok?
I don't have enough time to print and playtest all the files, but hopefully i should have get the right image size.
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You guys have to get these files! Toy203 sent them to me and he did an amazing job on these fighters.

A while ago I sent him the official templates I use to create the game. He used them to make a complete Pokemon fan expansion, including tuckbox and ability cards. Great job.
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These really are quite awesome. You all should download them!
 
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With the kind help of mr.
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i'm working on some more Pokemon! Actually, we teamed up (pokemon trainer style!), he invents amazing abilities and i create the graphics. I hope to release more and more Pokemon sets... Now go buy some dice!

Here's something new:

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