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There is a user currently selling games whose last 3 feedbacks are negative as he takes payment but the games do not arrive.

I have requested to BGG that the user be prevented from selling and trading on the site but in the meantime I urge you to check feedback before buying/trading.
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Good advice, but I figured everybody checked.
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Well, yeah. Thought that was an obvious thing to do.

Sorry to hear you got burned though. I hate buttheads like that.
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Hopefully this person will ship or be pressured to ship or post an explanation of the delay. This is a nice feature of the forum, it helps to self police.
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I don't check To trusting... I really should..
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javapuzzles wrote:
Hopefully this person will ship or be pressured to ship or post an explanation of the delay. This is a nice feature of the forum, it helps to self police.


I was burned over 6 months ago. The guy did not respond to my e-mails or Paypal's after I took out a dispute with them. Paypal got my money back and BGG did stop him selling on the site for a while but he is back ripping people off again. I would happily name him but if I did then I am sure the admins would delete this post.
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I would happily name him but if I did then I am sure the admins would delete this post.

They might well do, but in the interest of the community, I would name him anyway.
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Finding feedback ratings should be much more intuitive than it is.
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Is there any reason you can't name him? There is a bad trader list. Should have a bad seller list, too.
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Phoenixgeek wrote:
javapuzzles wrote:
Hopefully this person will ship or be pressured to ship or post an explanation of the delay. This is a nice feature of the forum, it helps to self police.


I was burned over 6 months ago. The guy did not respond to my e-mails or Paypal's after I took out a dispute with them. Paypal got my money back and BGG did stop him selling on the site for a while but he is back ripping people off again. I would happily name him but if I did then I am sure the admins would delete this post.

Alert the appropriate admin anyway. GM him the name privately. I don't know who it is but expect it would be Octavian.
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I contacted Octavian before I posted this thread.
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I have just checked and the user now has no games for sale on BGG.
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Honestly this thread has no real value at all other than being a PSA with some drama sprinkled on top.

Since the offending person was not named and all we got was advice to check feedback.

BY not naming the theif your not helping the community but you are helping that bastard in a roundabout way by keeping him hidden!
 
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atraangelis wrote:
Honestly this thread has no real value at all other than being a PSA with some drama sprinkled on top.

Since the offending person was not named and all we got was advice to check feedback.

BY not naming the theif your not helping the community but you are helping that bastard in a roundabout way by keeping him hidden!



Had he named the guilty party, people would have just paid attention to that user. By not naming the dishonest seller, it cause everyone to check out the sellers before they buy, which they should already be doing. I appreciate the reminder that everyone is not as honest as most people on the geek.
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atraangelis wrote:
Honestly this thread has no real value at all other than being a PSA with some drama sprinkled on top.

Since the offending person was not named and all we got was advice to check feedback.

BY not naming the theif your not helping the community but you are helping that bastard in a roundabout way by keeping him hidden!



Had he named the guilty party, people would have just paid attention to that user. By not naming the dishonest seller, it cause everyone to check out the sellers before they buy, which they should already be doing. I appreciate the reminder that everyone is not as honest as most people on the geek.


I agree, there's value in this thread. I usually don't check seller feedback and this is a good reminder. Of course, if I didn't find any value in this thread I would've just moved along without accusing the OP of abetting wrongdoing....
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I always check feedback rating and if there isn't any I have a look at their contributions on the geek, if they have geek buddies etc... That still isn't a guarantee though.

That said, sometimes you just have to take a punt and hope it's ok. I do always insist on paypal so I have some comeback if they don't deliver.

Maybe BGG could be a bit more pro-active in settling disputes. If someone is selling on the site and not sending games essentially that's fraud. If it happens once you can argue family circumstances. Twice and it's criminal, no excuses.
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Hi,

It's an old list, but here's the bad trader list. Admin's haven't deleted it in the past when names have been added to it.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/17839

Please also make sure that you contact Octavian (admin). He was helpful when I was in a similar situation. (Sorry missed your comments about this.)

I'd make sure you've done everything that you can with Octavian before posting a name to the list.
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Thanks for the reminder. I have always been pretty trusting and never checked feedback before.
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The OP did the correct thing. Take disputes to the admins privately and let us handle it. Use the feedback system. Don't call out other users in the forums.
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One thing I hate is if I give someone a bad rating, they can rate me bad back in return. Once, I had a bad trade and I rated him poorly, and he turned around and rated me bad poorly as well ...

*edited for the grammar lawyer ;)
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charlescab wrote:
One thing I hate is if I give someone a bad rating, they can rate me bad back. I had give me a bad trade and I rated him poorly and he turned around and rated me bad...


same problem w/ ebay.

in case anyone couldnt follow the OP - what i am saying is that people can not leave negative feedback whether its as a buyer or seller without the very real possibility that you will get negative feedback in return.

this is a major issue for most small sellers where even a few negative comments will cause people to buy from other sellers.
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I had give me a bad trade

Was he rating your grammar?
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