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I was thinking how I liked playing Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege and so I must play it again. I will go to the full campaign.
Then I thought that I only know Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege and Stalingrad Pocket II.
Most of you had the knowledge about this and another SCS games from the Gamers/MMP, if you would like post from other publishers. I only put this ones because they are known to me.
Can you post anothers and what do you think about their mechanics/playability.

Thanks in advance.

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My favourite is Drive on Paris, which I've played several times by email as well as solo. It gives a great feel for the 1914 campaign in France, with the Germans pouring through Belgium while the French are forced to conduct their offensive in Alsace-Lorraine.

Another title in the series I don't have, but have heard many good things about, is Fallschirmjäger.
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Maybe this will help!

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/39463/standard-combat-...
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I've only played Afrika (second edition) so I don't know how others compare, but I know for sure it is a great game by itself. It feels a bit like OCS light (very light) in higher scale, because it requires moving supply points around. It's OOP though.
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I really enjoy Afrika II and Yom Kippur.
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It Never Snows zombiezombiezombie I can't wait for this bad boy.

Afrika (second edition) and Ardennes are the favorites of the ones I've played.

I have also heard that Drive on Paris, Fallschirmjaeger and The Mighty Endeavor are all very good.

Did I miss any? Sorry I couldn't narrow it down for you more.


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I've played three SCS games: Ardennes, The Mighty Endeavor and Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege. Of the three, Bastogne is the only one which I like -- but I like it very much; I think it's a great game. Ardennes is intriguing. It has the lowest linear counter density of any Bulge game in existence, and replicates some features which no other Bulge game replicates. Some day soon, I hope to write a review of this game. I would recommend it, however, only to Bulge afficionados.
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So far I've enjoyed all the SCS games I've tried. I like some more than others and the ones at the top of my list would be Fallschirmjaeger, Afrika II, Stalingrad Pocket II and Crusader.
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Yom Kippur is excellent.
See AAR thingy here: Pictures of 2 games in progress.
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I can't say which SCS is better...but I can say which SCS is worse for me...

Operation Michael

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My favorites are Ardennes, Afrika (second edition) (even if you can't find 2nd edition the 1st edition is very good too), and The Mighty Endeavor.
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Fallschirmjaeger, followed by Stalingrad Pocket (either edition) and probably Ardennes.

zuludawn wrote:
My favourite is Drive on Paris, which I've played several times by email as well as solo. It gives a great feel for the 1914 campaign in France,


Actually I thought it gives almost no feeling for the historical campaign with the exploitation capable "horse panzer" units, and the French being rewarded for killing units so the Tleilaxu can revive them for the northern half of the map where they are urgently needed. DoP is the only game I've ever seen on the 1914 campaign where cavalry can take and hold cities for victory purposes, leading to utterly ahistorical use instead of their historical purpose of scouting and flank protection. It's a great game but it's not WWI.

I suspect the reason why Operation Michael cops a lot of flak in such comparisons is that (unlike Drive on Paris) it is actually reasonably good at showing WWI paces of advance. (Of course it is also a different situation and scale.)

I always thought Yom Kippur is a great game for people who want to see what the 1973 war would have been like if it had been fought with hovertanks. Very colourful, too.

What is people's impression of Karelia '44? It seems like a situation that SCS would be well suited for (like Ardennes).
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I have enjoyed playing Afrika (second edition) , The Mighty Endeavor, and Stalingrad Pocket II. I started a game of Drive on Paris once, but was pretty disappointed with it.
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lesulm1 wrote:
Alberto wrote:
I can't say which SCS is better...but I can say which SCS is worse for me...

Operation Michael

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I didn't like it when I played FtF. But, I am really enjoying playing it on Vassal.


Was it because of counter density, "fidgetyness" or what?
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No doubt Stalingrad Pocket (first edition)establishes the series to me.
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Personally I didn't like Karelia at all. It felt way too scripted for me and not particularly exciting. After the initial breaching of the line which is problematic itself, more on that later, the Soviets just try to rush their arty forward as fast as possible then the Finns withdraw to a new defensive line. If the Soviet over extend themselves, in theory the Finns can counter attack but really it is just a question of how long they are going to hang on to their defenses before withdrawing. They can wait for the bombardment and get mauled but in the process delay the Soviets or fall back more or less intact, rinse repeat etc..

It might be historical but not particularly thrilling, especially since the system is pretty barebone. Baltic Gap sort of plays the same way, but it was a blast. Here it just felt flavorless and scripted to me.

For the initial breaching of the Finnish fortified line, I don't get why the Soviets deploy first. It doesn't really make sense, because the Finns get to play some sort of cat and mouse game with the placement of their units, to get in a situation where they can get attacked by only a small portion of the Soviet forces. If the Soviets deployment is not optimal or if they get bad luck with their artillery barrage, you might as well restart because they are not going anywhere and won't reach their objectives. And the rate of advance for the Soviet reinforcements feels wrong too. It leads to ridiculous movement rates considering the time scale and distances involved.

I wouldn't recommend this one.
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Since a majority of the SCS titles are out of print I would look at Yom Kippur. It is a steal at $20 in ziplock or for 8 bucks more you can get a box ($28) at the MMP website. Their website leaves a lot to be desired as they don't post a lot of details about any particular game (even the backside of the game box usually has more details than what MMP posts on their website). The game pretty much only has the campaign scenario (and some variants of the campaign) but it is a tense fight and a lot of fun to play.
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Thanks for the comments, Olivier.
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zuludawn wrote:
My favourite is Drive on Paris, which I've played several times by email as well as solo. It gives a great feel for the 1914 campaign in France, with the Germans pouring through Belgium while the French are forced to conduct their offensive in Alsace-Lorraine.

Another title in the series I don't have, but have heard many good things about, is Fallschirmjäger.


Isn´t that on getting to be reprinted in this year?
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kiraly wrote:
Every SCS game I've played I've enjoyed, but I really like Ardennes. I've read that there's some sort of guaranteed way to have the Germans win, but we haven't figured it out yet. Fun game!


Can you compare the Ardennes from The Gamers with Ardennes '44 from GMT.
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Definitely help. Thanks...
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It Never Snows zombiezombiezombie I can't wait for this bad boy.

Afrika (second edition) and Ardennes are the favorites of the ones I've played.

I have also heard that Drive on Paris, Fallschirmjaeger and The Mighty Endeavor are all very good.

Did I miss any? Sorry I couldn't narrow it down for you more.




yes, the Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege, Stalingrad Pocket II and The Mighty Endeavor. Do you know that ones?
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I've only played Afrika (second edition) so I don't know how others compare, but I know for sure it is a great game by itself. It feels a bit like OCS light (very light) in higher scale, because it requires moving supply points around. It's OOP though.


That game deserves a reprint.
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sassypickle wrote:
I've always enjoyed a good game of Stalingrad Pocket II, though I do think it's a bit flawed a simulation. Still a good game.

For FTF gaming, Yom Kippur was a surprisingly fun experience.


I must try Yom Kippur.
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bob_santafe wrote:
I've played three SCS games: Ardennes, The Mighty Endeavor and Bastogne: Screaming Eagles under Siege. Of the three, Bastogne is the only one which I like -- but I like it very much; I think it's a great game. Ardennes is intriguing. It has the lowest linear counter density of any Bulge game in existence, and replicates some features which no other Bulge game replicates. Some day soon, I hope to write a review of this game. I would recommend it, however, only to Bulge afficionados.


How about The Mighty Endeavor? What do you say about that?
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