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Here's the dilemma.

If you could trade one of your games for only one of the following Wallace games:

Tinner's Trail
Byzantium
Automobile
First Train to Nuremberg

Which would it be and why? I am in this predicament and I am a huge fan of Age of Steam and Brass. Thanks for any and all strong opinions.
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Not having played first train, I would absolutely select Automobile from your chosen set. Plays nicely with 3-5 players and of those listed it is the one in which economic decisions are most important. It certainly is a great game!

If you like Age of Steam, Tinner's Trail will be too easy for you, unless you are specifically looking for a shorter train game (in which case I'd recommend Wabash Cannonball, though it is not a Wallace design)
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bachismyhero wrote:
Here's the dilemma.

If you could trade one of your games for only one of the following Wallace games:

Tinner's Trail
Byzantium
Automobile
First Train to Nuremberg

Which would it be and why? I am in this predicament and I am a huge fan of Age of Steam and Brass. Thanks for any and all strong opinions.


I am more of a fan of his "conflict" games, and would have chosen Byzantium for myself. It's a strange and interesting game, if not a little delicate.

But looking at how you like Steam and Brass, I would go with First Train to Nuremberg for you.

I've played all the games you listed.
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I´d go for First Train to Nuremberg. Although I can see arguments for Automobile, I think First Train has more replayability. Automobile is very dependent on what players do to provide variety. Tinner's Trail is Wallace light. (I haven't tried Byzantium but that's not the sort of Wallace game I enjoy most.)

None of them are as good as Age of Steam or Brass, though, so don't get your hopes up too much!
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I would say it depends on which version of Automobile it is. If it is the Treefrog version I would go for it or if it is the new deluxe version I would go for it as well. Otherwise First Train to Nuremberg.
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If you like AoS and Brass then First Train would be your logical choice. My personal recommendation however would be for Byzantium. I really like the game mechanics on that one and you're playing both sides of the fence to gain your points. It's a rather unique game system and the game actions fit the theme nicely.
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none of them.

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Quote:
none of them.

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And what would your astute recommendation be?

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Automobile.


The "and why" part of the query was important to me, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted the pixels. So...

and why?

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I think Automobile is the best game of the four, even though I like the other three just fine. I personally find First Train to Nuremburg slightly aggrevating to play.
 
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I have only played Tinner's and Automobile, and I think they're both great. Automobile takes longer and is a little more of a brain burner. Tinner's Trail is a little lighter (lighter than Steam; I have not played Brass), so it is easier to get to the table.

If you get Byzantium or First Train, report back on what you think. I am curious.
 
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AoS and Brass are both in my top 10.

I haven't played Byzantium, but I'm not such a big fan of the Wallace wargames that I have played.

First Train and Tinners' Trail are both great games, and which of them I'd choose depends on what you're looking for. I'd say First Train is closer to the type of game that AoS and Brass represent. Tinners' Trail is a little lighter, almost suitable for casual play.

I didn't care for Automobile very much. It's not bad, but it's lacking the trademark Wallace'y quirkinessI like, and for me, the (unfortunately crucial) demand mechanism pretty much ruins it.
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bachismyhero wrote:
Here's the dilemma.

If you could trade one of your games for only one of the following Wallace games:

Tinner's Trail
Byzantium
Automobile
First Train to Nuremberg

Which would it be and why? I am in this predicament and I am a huge fan of Age of Steam and Brass. Thanks for any and all strong opinions.

If you like those games because of the depth, and for the network-building: First Train to Nuremberg
If you're really into the economic side of things: Automobile (although First Train would probably also interest you)

Tinner's Trail is an excellent game, but in this case probably ranks 3rd; or higher if you're looking for a shorter, lighter game with more randomness.

Byzantium is a very different type of game; definitely try-before-you-buy because it's totally unlike those other 2 games despite coming from the same designer.
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Thank you all for the thoughtful recommendations. I am chewing on this for a while. If I pull the trigger shortly, I'll post back here with results.

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Of those 4 I'd choose Automobile. It's a solid game but I'd also agree with those above... it's no Brass or Age of Steam.

A Few Acres of Snow or London would be good alternatives as well.
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