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So I got a Kindle Fire over the holidays and have now spent some time with it. I rooted and got to the Android market, which is incredibly useful and this device has some utility has a tablet. But I'm really here to talk about the reader part of it.

With which I have a few problems. But not the one that everyone is probably expecting.

My major gripe with the device is that its ability to read plain text and .doc files out of the box is grossly overstated. PDFs, too, although they will at least work. I had to install external apps NOT available through amazon to get any decent reader for .txt and .pdf files. The Adobe Reader for Android has a nice "text flow" feature for dealing with troublesome page formatting, so that's good. But again, I'm pretty sure it would not work without rooting the device.

What I'm NOT going to talk about is ePaper, largely because I have no standard of comparison that includes it. However, I've been reading comfortably on a netbook for quite some time using a reader software that I like a lot (although it can't handle many formats).

The thing I've grown to dislike--and pardon me if this is ridiculous--is the page turns. The reader I use on the PC has a great feature where it can scroll based on characters-per-second, so it reacts to the density of the text. This has become my preferred way to read. Does anyone else prefer this? (I use gray-on-black text, with margins set to provide a fairly narrow column to minimize horizontal eye-scanning)

I don't dislike turning pages in a real book. But hanging on to that aspect of things seems like an anachronism except in cases of a designed page (comics, magazines, coffee table books, etc). Which isn't to say I'd want to eradicate the page-reading mode. But once you've got a full-on LCD screen, might as well put some smart scrolling in there too.

Also, I've grown accustomed to the matte surface of my netbook's screen and the shiny glass screen of the Fire seems glare-crazy to me. This is an area where the ePaper Kindle would be preferable. I also understand that it is not similarly crippled for textfiles... why they decided to remove Kindle features from the Fire is baffling to me. The text-to-speech is not there either. Some very strange decisions here.
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My ereader (Google Books is the one I use the most) flips pages. I like it. I know it's silly in an ereader, but each time I flip a page it feels comfortable to me, and I feel like I accomplished something with each page I finish.
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wmshub wrote:
...each time I flip a page it feels comfortable to me, and I feel like I accomplished something with each page I finish.
That reminds me of one of my favorite features on my Kindle Fire: how it shows a little bookmark with a "percent finished" number on all of my e-books. So I can go, "Hey, I'm making short work of that latest Magic book. I'm already 82% finished!" Or, "Hey, I really need to step it up on that book about porn, I'm only at 15%!"
Love that.


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fightcitymayor wrote:
wmshub wrote:
...each time I flip a page it feels comfortable to me, and I feel like I accomplished something with each page I finish.
That reminds me of one of my favorite features on my Kindle Fire: how it shows a little bookmark with a "percent finished" number on all of my e-books. So I can go, "Hey, I'm making short work of that latest Magic book. I'm already 82% finished!" Or, "Hey, I really need to step it up on that book about porn, I'm only at 15%!"
Love that.


One thing that annoys me about the google ereader is that info like page number, etc., disappear when you read. You can pop them up, but they go away when you flip a page. I'd love an option to leave those on all the time. I agree, being able to glance and know how far along I am is nice. On a phone with a tiny screen it might make sense to show an extra line of text instead of a page number and progress bar, but on a tab I can spare the space.

I've tried the kindle ereader app but I didn't like it as much as the google one, can't remember why now.
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fightcitymayor wrote:
Hey, I really need to step it up on that book about porn, I'm only at 15%!


Wow, you can watch videos on that thing?
 
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Spacejack wrote:

I don't dislike turning pages in a real book. But hanging on to that aspect of things seems like an anachronism except in cases of a designed page (comics, magazines, coffee table books, etc). Which isn't to say I'd want to eradicate the page-reading mode. But once you've got a full-on LCD screen, might as well put some smart scrolling in there too.


You mean you just want one long page of text and to just scroll down it? Sounds good in theory, but you'd still have to stair step it to a screen otherwise you'd be going "opps, scrolled too far, opps scrolled back too far, opps, there you go" I think that would get old REAL fast.
I think you're onto something tho. I could do the long doc if it screen stepped, but have it be activated by pushing a button on the case instead of using a second hand to flip pages, that might be something. I could hold my booze in the other hand that way...
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Phil of Mars wrote:
Spacejack wrote:

I don't dislike turning pages in a real book. But hanging on to that aspect of things seems like an anachronism except in cases of a designed page (comics, magazines, coffee table books, etc). Which isn't to say I'd want to eradicate the page-reading mode. But once you've got a full-on LCD screen, might as well put some smart scrolling in there too.


You mean you just want one long page of text and to just scroll down it? Sounds good in theory, but you'd still have to stair step it to a screen otherwise you'd be going "opps, scrolled too far, opps scrolled back too far, opps, there you go" I think that would get old REAL fast.
I think you're onto something tho. I could do the long doc if it screen stepped, but have it be activated by pushing a button on the case instead of using a second hand to flip pages, that might be something. I could hold my booze in the other hand that way...


I said smart scrolling. I also said I've been using it for a while on a different device. Characters-per-second autoscroll, as specified in the original post. I do tend to sit there with my finger on the "brake" pedal, in case my concentration wavers and I get slower than the scroll. I don't know what you mean by "stair step" it. It works just like a teleprompter.

I did find an app that would scroll, but it only reads textfiles (probably a necessary limitation to some degree) and did not have CPS scrolling. Lines-per-second is MUCH clunkier.

Essentially what I am doing is reducing the eye movement involved with reading. I can focus on a very small area of the screen and the text dumps directly into my brain. I also have a lot of annoying eye floaters, which can be very distracting when I'm reading a conventional page, so I like to minimize eye twitching when I'm looking at something like text for long periods of time.
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you should be able to send your pdf files to your free kindle account to have them transformed into more useable and readablr kindle files.
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