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I red Tolkien's books a long time ago. Therefore, I cannot remember all the characters that appear there. So, if a Tolkien fan could help me identifying the characters that appear in the cards I would be grateful. I'm interested in knowing where they appear in the books.
Lets start with the heroes in the core set:

Aragorn: No doubt.
Gloin: One of Thorin's dwarves in The Hobbit. I think he also appeared or is mention in TLotR.
Theodred: wasn't he the son of Theodem?

Gimli: No doubt.
Legolas: No doubt.
Thalin: Who is him? I checked and he is not in Thorin's group.

Eowyn: No doubt.
Eleanor: Who is her?
Dunhere: The only info I have is what is on the flavor of the card.

Denethor: No doubt.
Glorfindel: I think he is a powerful elf, but I do not remember him appearing in the books.
Beravor: Who is her?

 
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Re: Who are this guys?
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Thalin and Beravor?


The first navigated the Anduin and discovered the Sea of Udun in the mid Second Age.

(I think FFG make stuff up).

 
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Re: Who are this guys?
Yes to Theodred - killed a few days before Gandalf arrived at Edoras
Thalin is not in LotR
Dunhere was chieftain of the folk of Harrowdale
Eleanor is an FFG invention. Elanor (note spelling) was Sam's firstborn.
Glorfindel was a high elf, one of Rivendel's mightiest. Most of what Arwen did in the film was actually Glorfindel.
Beravor anothe FFG invention.
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surrutia wrote:

Gloin: One of Thorin's dwarves in The Hobbit. I think he also appeared or is mention in TLotR.


Yes, Gloin was one of the dwarves in the Hobbit. He's also the father of Gimli, and was present with Gimli at the Council of Elrond in Fellowship.
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Ah beaten to the punch. Boy you guys are lightning quick to reply
 
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Re: Who are this guys?
Glorfindel also appears as a tough dude in Middle-earth.

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Why are female dwarves never mentioned in the books, the games etc? I'm not really into bearded ladies, but the gender mix for Dwarves (and Hobbits) in LOTR games seems askew... maybe they were just kept out of view polishing the axes and doing the dishes...
 
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I'm not really into bearded ladies


Ah, that brings me back to the days of KOTD, arguments over whether female dwarves have beards or not laugh . I think one of the Dragon Magazine issues when I was still reading them had a non-bearded female dwarf in the article about dwarven society and whatnot, back in the day D&D 3rd edition came out.

On a note related to the thread itself, Beravor and Thalin are two heroes from FFG's Middle-Earth Quest .
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Glorfindel also appears as a tough dude in Middle-earth.

Mike


Well he did kill a Balrog, come back from the dead, being involved in the destruction of Angmar and made the prediction about the Witch King of Angmar not being killed by a man.
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Chou4555 wrote:
Why are female dwarves never mentioned in the books, the games etc? I'm not really into bearded ladies, but the gender mix for Dwarves (and Hobbits) in LOTR games seems askew... maybe they were just kept out of view polishing the axes and doing the dishes...


"It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need. They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart." --LotR Appendix A
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Gloin: In addition to The Hobbit, in The Fellowship of the Ring, he represented the Dwarves in the Council of Elrond; also the father of Gimli

Theodred: son of Theoden, mortally wounded at the First Battle of the Fords of Isen (mentioned in The Two Towers)

Dunhere: part of the mustering of the Rohirrim; slain at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields in The Return of the King

Glorfindel: He appeared in The Fellowship of the Ring during Strider's & the 4 Hobbits' "Flight to the Ford" on their way to Rivendell; was also present at the Council of Elrond...if I recall correctly, he may also have been present during Aragorn's coronation towards the end of The Return of the King.

Beravor, Eleanor, & Thalin: FFG "created" these 3 adventurers for their Middle-Earth Quest game; they also created Eometh (Rohan) and Argalad (Elf) for this one, so I'm wondering if they'll be making an appearance in future expansions...

 
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Thanks for the detailed info! I think this should go on Wikipedia!
 
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I really don't understand why they have to make up names. The Lord of the Rings world is so rich full of interesting characters that could be included in the game.

By the way, I use the following wiki to check the story behind each character:

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki


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bveld wrote:
I really don't understand why they have to make up names. The Lord of the Rings world is so rich full of interesting characters that could be included in the game.

By the way, I use the following wiki to check the story behind each character:

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki




Killer website John. Thanks!

P.S. I couldn't agree with you more.
 
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I really don't understand why they have to make up names. The Lord of the Rings world is so rich full of interesting characters that could be included in the game.

By the way, I use the following wiki to check the story behind each character:

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki




+1 and all the purist Tolkien fans cringe as one.
 
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My fave name from LOTR is Grima Wormtongue. He was a human I recall- one of the Rohan King's corrupt advsors... sadly they missed out from the film the bit at the end of LOTR where he and Saruman enslaved Hobbiton. Christopher Lee got in a right old strop about that!
 
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Chou4555 wrote:
My fave name from LOTR is Grima Wormtongue. He was a human I recall- one of the Rohan King's corrupt advsors... sadly they missed out from the film the bit at the end of LOTR where he and Saruman enslaved Hobbiton. Christopher Lee got in a right old strop about that!


I think Christopher Lee was more concerned about the 8 minute Saruman sequence they cut from the theatrical version of Return of the King. Thankfully they added it back in for the Extended DVD/BR edition. Even more happily
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he's back on board as Saruman again for The Hobbit movies...
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Good. He must be almost 90 years old- but he does speak fluent Elvish apparently!
 
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Christopher Lee reads the audio-book version of 'The Children of Húrin'. I hardly need to say that he gives a fine reading with flawless pronunciation of all the names. And his voice reading Morgoth's lines gives me goosebumps!
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Christopher Lee is the man! He is good even in very poor movies or tv-series (I remember one time appearance in space 1999 series... Och boy it was so bad, but Cristopher make that episode reasonable). One of the best voiced actors in the history! James Earl Jones is another, that has very rememberable voice. :-)
 
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bveld wrote:
I really don't understand why they have to make up names.


I think that it is because they don't have rights to all those names.
 
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Chou4555 wrote:
My fave name from LOTR is Grima Wormtongue. He was a human I recall- one of the Rohan King's corrupt advsors... sadly they missed out from the film the bit at the end of LOTR where he and Saruman enslaved Hobbiton. Christopher Lee got in a right old strop about that!


I was VERY disappointed that they cut out the scouring of the shire at the end and the old forest/Tom Bombadil from the beginning, they were my favorite parts of the books. Well, those parts and the council of elrond and the part when Aragorn announces himself to Eomer and his riders.
 
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Chou4555 wrote:
My fave name from LOTR is Grima Wormtongue. He was a human I recall- one of the Rohan King's corrupt advsors... sadly they missed out from the film the bit at the end of LOTR where he and Saruman enslaved Hobbiton. Christopher Lee got in a right old strop about that!


I was VERY disappointed that they cut out the scouring of the shire at the end and the old forest/Tom Bombadil from the beginning, they were my favorite parts of the books. Well, those parts and the council of elrond and the part when Aragorn announces himself to Eomer and his riders.
I guess all fans of the book have their own pet gripes about the film. As it happens, I did not have too much f a problem with those bits being left out. Bombadil does nothing for the story, really, and I am surprised that Tolkien left it in the book after all the revisions and rewrites. It strikes me as a leftover from when the LotR was just another kids book sequel to the hobbit.

I can understand the cinematic reasons for leaving out the scouring of the shire. Jackson was ribbed at the Oscars for wining as many Oscars as there were false endings to the film, and that would have added yet more, and added yet more running time after the climax of the film at the cracks of doom. You have more time and space to tidy up loose ends in books.

I can also accept, for cinematic reasons, turning Glorfindel into Arwen.

There are plenty of things I find much harder to accept. Turning Faramir into just a little version of his brother, instead of the noble contrast in the books was unforgiveable to me. Especially when the whole point seemed to be an excuse to get in a gratuitous dragon sequence. The ents, ditto. They made up their own minds based on what was right, they did not need to be tricked by the hobbits. Then we have The Sam/Frodo stuff before the stairs. And, and, and ...
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