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While playing my two newest-to-me games, Twilight Struggle" and "War of the Ring," I've found midway through games that I'd been ignoring some very important text on some cards about when certain continuing effects end. Why?
After playing Magic: the Gathering for more than a decade, I've been conditioned to completely ignore italicized text on cards. Italicized text is flavor text on Magic cards, and while I'll likely read it at some point, I don't need to pay any attention to while I'm actually playing the game.
When games print actual rules text on cards in italics, I'm going to miss it at first -- perhaps for turns or even games. I know the designers are probably trying to let you know that the italicized text isn't something that has an effect when you play the card, but there has to be a different way to do this.Perhaps a bold "this effect ends" in front of the conditions that end the effect would work better.
Does anyone else have this chronic problem, or do I stand in a significant minority?
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I'm the opposite. I almost always read the italicized text on the Magic cards. It carries on through most other CCG's/LCG's that I've seen. Italicized text is always story text, but I still read it almost every time I see it. (Especially on new cards: if it's story text, it's story text I haven't read yet!)

I could see how it edit: would be could become second nature to skip over it on cards if you conditioned yourself to ignore it, though. I don't imagine it's a common problem, but I don't think you're entirely alone.
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I only read italic text when sleeving cards, then I'll ignore it...
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Mechanics explanations are also italicized on Magic cards. Flying, Persist, Affinity, etc,.

I'm conditioned not to read Magic cards at all. Who doesn't know what a Tarmogoyf, or Force of Will, or Vendillion Clique looks like? And of course we all know what they do.

Until the goblin deck has a tarfire, or a trinisphere is in play, or someone wants to target themselves and is calling a judge over because they did not, in fact, play duress.

While Magic does condition us to ignore certain things to some extent, we usually have brought it on ourselves if we ignore too much.

Extending that conditioning into other games is the fault of the gamer, not the text formatting of the gaming industry!

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Mechanics explanations are another thing you can pretty much ignore on Magic cards. Thanks, but I know what those abilities mean, moving on now.
Magic has also been around much longer than most board games popular here. Would it not be wise to pay attention to how other game companies format cards to see what works well and what gamers expect?
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To be fair, I don't think it's something that the industry should "be aware" of. I think it's safe to say that when playing a game for the first time, you should pay careful attention to every piece/word you see. Heck, sometimes I glance at the tiny copyright/artist text at the bottom of a card, just to see if the designers were sneaky and tried to throw in a joke or something. :-)
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I think it's fair to say that explaining mechanics is not something someone who plays magic as a 'new to me game' should be ignoring.
 
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I have also been conditioned to believe that most italicized text is flavor text, but this is from playing board games, not Magic.
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I have a similar problem. I YELL CAPITALIZED TEXT!
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I have the same problem.

On the up side, you won't read this.
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Hybrid is an example where in the worst cases 80-90% of the text on the cards can be italicized short stories, and at the very bottom of the card you might find a sentence or two crammed in there, to explain what the card actually does. All in a tiny font in order to make room for the fluff.

And no, I almost never read italicized text while playing.
 
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"I ignore italicized text on cards"


This needs to be a microbadge.

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I love reading the italicized text on cards!
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DarkCelt wrote:



"I ignore italicized text on cards"


This needs to be a microbadge.



And its counterpart: "I read all fluff text!" (Or whatever the technical term is.)
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iidhaegn wrote:
DarkCelt wrote:



"I ignore italicized text on cards"


This needs to be a microbadge.



And its counterpart: "I read all fluff text!" (Or whatever the technical term is.)

YES! I would completely buy that!
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I guess the game Arena: Morituri te salutant wouldn't be great for you then:





Where unformatted text is flavor, italicized text has gameplay information, and bold text... also has gameplay information.
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"I played a game before where the rules worked like X, therefore I will not read the rules of any new games because they probably work like X too. This is OK, because I played that game a lot and it's very popular."

Somehow, this viewpoint doesn't seem like it's going to work out so well. You've given yourself a bad habit, you need to unlearn it. And no, I've never heard of anyone else having this issue - it seems fairly rare.
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It just seems that you're doing a disservice to the people playing your game if 90 percent or more of your game text is in one style, and then you place a small amount of text -- at the very bottom of your cards -- in a different style.
Sure, it's a bad habit, and sure, maybe it's only a problem people who were dedicated Magic players before coming to board games have. I was mostly curious if others had this problem, too. Perhaps they don't.
Though my opponents also aren't latching onto this text as rules text, either, and they come from varied gaming backgrounds.
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People will sometimes just overlook things. Especially when other people are overlooking it as well. It could just be a thing.
 
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Military Muskrat wrote:
iidhaegn wrote:
DarkCelt wrote:



"I ignore italicized text on cards"


This needs to be a microbadge.



And its counterpart: "I read all fluff text!" (Or whatever the technical term is.)

YES! I would completely buy that!


So how do you feel about Android, then?

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That card makes perfect use of italicized text. The italics at the top of the card are flavorful -- reading it likely makes the game more fun -- but the rules text is there at the bottom in regular font. I'm not sure "Haunted" needed to be bold and italics, but at least it can't be mistaken for flavor text in the middle of a sentence.
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Military Muskrat wrote:

And its counterpart: "I read all fluff text!" (Or whatever the technical term is.)


I certainly would pay the 8 for that!
 
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