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Posting this as a spin-off from the R thread, since it pops up regularly.

Post your discussions regarding MBTI here, whether you're a believer or not.

*New and improved* With a poll!

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What MBTI type would you currently characterise as?
(Multiple answers are possbile, but please try to refrain to just one if you can.)
ISTJ – Inspector (11-14%)
ISTP – Crafter (4-6%)
ESTP – Promoter (4-5%)
ESTJ – Supervisor (8-12%)
ENTJ – Fieldmarshal (2-5%)
ENTP – Inventor (2-5%)
INTP – Architect (3-5%)
INTJ – Mastermind (2-4%)
INFJ – Counselor (1-3%)
INFP – Healer (4-5%)
ENFP – Champion (6-8%)
ENFJ – Teacher (2-5%)
ESFJ – Provider (9-13%)
ESFP – Performer (4-9%)
ISFP – Composer (5-9%)
ISFJ – Protector (9-14%)
      65 answers
Poll created by davidenkinderen


I added the general population percentages, so we can see in how far the BGG WW community differs.

A 70-question example test can be found here: MBTI test
 
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Re: The MBTI thread
Continuing the discussion from the R thread.

ChickenSedan wrote:
For what it's worth:

E-44
N-88
T-62
P-44


What's the base here? 0 or 50?
Does this result reveal you as an ENTP, or an INTJ with strong NT preferance and weak IJ?
 
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Re: The MBTI thread
davidenkinderen wrote:
Continuing the discussion from the R thread.

ChickenSedan wrote:
For what it's worth:

E-44
N-88
T-62
P-44


What's the base here? 0 or 50?
Does this result reveal you as an ENTP, or an INTJ with strong NT preferance and weak IJ?


I'm just going with what the website tells me. Those were the letters it gave.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healer_(role_variant)

I am an INFP, and I am a believer. The Chinese Zodiac (I am a rat), the Greek Zodiac (I am a Cancer), and the MBTI all correlate on the same character traits that I mainly identify with, to a degree that I find cannot be coincidence. I realize that astrology is general enough that this would be true regardless of which combinations I end up with, but I found the correlations too interesting to not be of signifigant note.

INFPs in a nutshell:
-concerned and caring towards others
-sensitive and perceptive about others' feelings
-loyal and committed - want lifelong relationships
-deep capacity for love and caring
-driven to meet other's needs
-strive for "win-win" situations
-nurturing, supportive and encouraging
-likely to recognize and appreciate other's needs
-able to express themselves well
-flexible and diverse
-tend to be shy and reserved
-don't like to have their "space" invaded
-extreme dislike of conflict
-extreme dislike of criticism
-strong need to receive praise and positive affirmation
-react very emotionally to stressful situations
-difficulty in leaving a bad relationship
-difficulty in scolding or punishing others
-reserved about expressing their feelings
-perfectionistic tendencies may cause them to not give themselves enough credit
-tendency to blame themselves for problems, and hold everything on their own shoulders

Rats in a nutshell:
-expressive
-revere their close friends, but have many acquaintances
-self-contained
-stubborn
-live by their own rules
-perfectionists
-protective
-sensual and loving
-lead busy lives
-problem solvers
-can never decide for themselves
-present a cool facade to the outside world, regardless of internal feelings
-Rat's colour is light blue (I love the colour blue!)

Cancers in a nutshell:
-emotional and loving
-intuitive and imaginative
-shrewd and cautious
-protective and sympathetic
-changeable and moody
-overemotional and touchy
-clinging and unable to let go

So yeah, I ascribe to the belief that these different means descibe me pretty well. Do I listen to horoscopes? No. All I find these tests and general descriptions are good for is describing myself in a nutshell.



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Re: The MBTI thread
I'm not a believer. It's just some cathegories you're given after you answer some questions according to your idea of yourself.
Freud (whose psycanalisis, if outdated, at least is deeper) said that self-analysis is impossible. You find that the description matches your characteristic because you more or less unconsciously chose what group you wanted to fall into.
Anyway, it's a very fun thing to try, and I'm not saying it's worthless. It's just not that objective revelation of your inner self someone wants it to be.
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I'm INTJ - the website I remember doing it on gives it the nickname "Mastermind" which I found hilariously fantastic.

wikipedia wrote:
Hallmarks of the INTJ include independence of thought and a desire for efficiency. They work best when given autonomy and creative freedom. They harbor an innate desire to express themselves by conceptualizing their own intellectual designs. They have a talent for analyzing and formulating complex theories. INTJs are generally well-suited for occupations within academia, research, consulting, management, science, engineering, and law. They are often acutely aware of their own knowledge and abilities—as well as their limitations and what they don't know (a quality that tends to distinguish them from INTPs). INTJs thus develop a strong confidence in their ability and talents, making them natural leaders.


That's a decently accurate description for me. It's less accurate today then it was a few years ago, however. I would be curious to retest and see if I get the same personality type. I know the I and J will still be there, but I'm less sure about the N and T. Still, I figure those elements fit better than the alternatives.
 
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I'm not a believer. It's just some cathegories you're given after you answer some questions according to your idea of yourself.
Freud (whose psycanalisis, if outdated, at least is deeper) said that self-analysis is impossible. You find that the description matches your characteristic because you more or less unconsciously chose what group you wanted to fall into.
Anyway, it's a very fun thing to try, and I'm not saying it's worthless. It's just not that objective revelation of your inner self someone wants it to be.


That is such a typical NT answer.
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Accatitippi wrote:
I'm not a believer. It's just some cathegories you're given after you answer some questions according to your idea of yourself.
Freud (whose psycanalisis, if outdated, at least is deeper) said that self-analysis is impossible. You find that the description matches your characteristic because you more or less unconsciously chose what group you wanted to fall into.
Anyway, it's a very fun thing to try, and I'm not saying it's worthless. It's just not that objective revelation of your inner self someone wants it to be.


I wonder if there was a way to make a test that you could give to others to do, to get a picture of which category they think you fall into.
 
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Re: The MBTI thread
davidenkinderen wrote:
Posting this as a spin-off from the R thread, since it pops up regularly.

Post your discussions regarding MBTI here, whether you're a believer or not.


I think MBTI is somewhat useful on a low level of philosophical and psychological understanding. It's rather basic and people carry away with it and turn it into something very similar to astrology. It's like thinking you know everything about blood disease because you happen to understand blood types. There's just so much more to psychology than the simple mapping of typical emotional characteristics.

I'm INFJ/INTJ. Depending on the test I'm very slightly feeling or Thinking. I do both. The other characteristics are fairly accurate, with the I being extremely strong. I'm a step short of agoraphobic.
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We took the course at my previous job, as it was suppose to help us assign tasks to people that would like to work on them, rather than assigning say an analytic task to a intuitive person (for example).

Of course in practice the company didn't want people to specialize (if a person always does the same task, they get very good at it, which means that they get given the task repeatedly until they move on to another position and then no-one knows how to do the task well), so immediately after the course they implemented a policy to have people only assigned to tasks that they had not done before, until everyone had done such a task.
 
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We took the course at my previous job, as it was suppose to help us assign tasks to people that would like to work on them, rather than assigning say an analytic task to a intuitive person (for example).

Of course in practice the company didn't want people to specialize (if a person always does the same task, they get very good at it, which means that they get given the task repeatedly until they move on to another position and then no-one knows how to do the task well), so immediately after the course they implemented a policy to have people only assigned to tasks that they had not done before, until everyone had done such a task.


I can see why this was you previous job.
 
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Re: The MBTI thread
Believer? Depends on what you mean by that. Is this a religious thread?

I think analysis of personality types is useful. I like looking at astrology, and find that certain aspects of it are useful as well. Handwriting analysis is also fun, and amazingly informative. Numerology is interesting, but I don't understand it well enough to have an opinion on it... it seems too random from what I have read, but I feel like I'm missing key elements. Bio-rhythm is too difficult for me as well, and either I just don't fully understand it or it is total crap... no idea which.

Aspects of peoples personality can be found in everything...
nature/nurture arguments come to mind as well.
 
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Maybe we should rename this the pseudoscience thread. Anyone up for phrenology?
 
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ChickenSedan wrote:
Maybe we should rename this the pseudoscience thread. Anyone up for phrenology?


Certainly.
 
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I read Tarot cards.
 
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I read Tarot cards.


How accurate would you say it has been for you?
 
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Guenhwyvhar wrote:
I read Tarot cards.


How accurate would you say it has been for you?


Everyone I read for seems to find meaning in the readings I give. I take a different approach to reading than your normal Tarot reader, because I don't get paid for something everyone can figure out for themselves. I just help them understand what the cards mean, and help show them how it could apply to their questions or scenarios. If they find a deeper understanding, bonus; if not, at least they explored themselves a bit.

But I have never had someone tell me that they have not benefited from a reading.

I would never pay for a Tarot reading, however.
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Guenhwyvhar wrote:
I read Tarot cards.

So do I.

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Guenhwyvhar wrote:
kristiefix wrote:
Guenhwyvhar wrote:
I read Tarot cards.


How accurate would you say it has been for you?


Everyone I read for seems to find meaning in the readings I give. I take a different approach to reading than your normal Tarot reader, because I don't get paid for something everyone can figure out for themselves. I just help them understand what the cards mean, and help show them how it could apply to their questions or scenarios. If they find a deeper understanding, bonus; if not, at least they explored themselves a bit.

But I have never had someone tell me that they have not benefited from a reading.

I would never pay for a Tarot reading, however.


I don't "believe" in tarot cards, or palm reading, but I think they're interesting and fun experiences.

I wouldn't pay for either, however. I had a friend who was a professional palm reader, and she read my palm and it was fun.
 
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Guenhwyvhar wrote:
I read Tarot cards.

So do I.

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Posted this in another thread, but I see it more belongs here:

Gelatinous Goo wrote:
jageroxorz wrote:

You can see this in the WW forums, with the deeply analytic players vs. the more emotional players, and how they approach games.


Okay, we need to mod some games stocked with various temperaments, or all the same temperament.

Perfect 11: Village of the INTPs

I don't think we could fill a village of ENFPs, but there are a few of us here.

Also, it would be interesting if someone who really understood the temperaments stocked the roles based on temps (though it would be data that could be used to solve the game). But Seer is ISFP, Martyr is ENFJ (I'm making these up, but you get the idea).

Moreso, I'd like to see a Village of the same temperament.
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As I said in the other thread, I think that's a great idea.

btw I'm not super familiar with MBTI, but I'm interested in it. I'd love to see someone expand on which types would fit which WW roles and why.
 
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As I said in the other thread, I think that's a great idea.

btw I'm not super familiar with MBTI, but I'm interested in it. I'd love to see someone expand on which types would fit which WW roles and why.


Did you know I'm introverted about half the time I take the test and extroverted the other half? I think its because I'm Gemini.

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Interesting... I remember being strongly INTP when I was in High School.


Now I'm apparently _ST_, with the I/E and P/J being close to 50% and flip flopping with the different tests I try. I spent many years trying to be more extroverted, Yay E. I've learned to be a lot more assertive recently so I can hold my ground against my SO, so the J uptick makes sense...

But Wow. I'm shocked I'm scoring as a S now instead of a N. I really wasn't expecting that. Perhaps it's thanks to WW and this community.

Thanks Guys!
 
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kristiefix wrote:

Did you know I'm introverted about half the time I take the test and extroverted the other half? I think its because I'm Gemini.


Me too!
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