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Paul Cuthbert
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Hi guys

I've watched a few videos on you tube and am looking at giving heroclix a try. Where would you suggest I start? I'm a fan of marvel more than DC, although there are heroes in DC I like too. I've seen the marvel avengers set and fantastic four one on a website, but not sure if they're the best value.

Really appreciate your help and guidance

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I'd say that the best set to start with is the one with the latest rules and the highest quality figures. Therefore, you'd want the latest starter set released.

That is the Blackest Night starter set.

It's a green lantern -themed set... sort of. It includes the Flash, Wonder Woman, Scarecrow and others but each one has a cosmic power ring imbuing them with awesome power.

This gives you a nice mix of iconic characters (I love Flash with the blue power ring), but still reason to go collecting the other non-powered versions.




 
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You mentioned getting a set with the latest rules, does that mean that not all of the themes go together?
 
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Each figure has powers associated with a color. So sometimes the effects of those colors may change, depending on the latest rules. So if you buy older sets, they will still be playable but you must consult the current rules for how they are played, not the rules that came with them.

The Blackest Night starter has the latest rules, but you can also download them from the heroclix website as well.
 
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To answer your question more directly, any heroclix set can be combined with any other. The newer sets have dials that are better constructed though, and not so frustrating to use. I wouldn't buy anything that came out before Avengers, jjust out of personal preference.

That being said, if you are playing in game stores or in tournament settings, then you are restricted to using certain sets according to their 'Modern Age' tournament rules. All collectable games seem to have such rules. But as far as just playing with your friends, you can mix and match any hero sets so long as you have the current rules to reference what their abilities do.
 
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papafuzzylugs wrote:
Hi guys

I've watched a few videos on you tube and am looking at giving heroclix a try. Where would you suggest I start? I'm a fan of marvel more than DC, although there are heroes in DC I like too. I've seen the marvel avengers set and fantastic four one on a website, but not sure if they're the best value.

Really appreciate your help and guidance

Thanks

I'm going to answer slightly different from lordrahvin and say you should get whichever starter set you want that has the figs you want to play with. In fact, I only say to get a starter set as it comes with a map and a bunch of tokens you'll find helpful (but aren't *really* needed). Really, any set that has a map would be good as having more maps is always nice.

The rules and the "Powers and Abilities" card can be downloaded for free from the heroclix website so don't get a starter just for the rules. Also, Wizkids is great with their "print and play" policy so you should be able to make/print your own tokens. I believe there is a file somewhere with a bunch...

Besides not being eligible for tournament play, one thing to note about some of the older sets is that a lot of the older figs tend to have a "glass jaw" (one good hit and they're near worthless). As lordrahvin said though, any fig can play with any other fig.

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I agree with Jeremiah. Even though some of the Marvel sets may not have the most latest rules, the changes in the past few years have been minimal so just downloading the most recent from the WK site is fine.

That said, I believe the only Marvel starter that has the more recent iteration of Heroclix (i.e. with stat cards) is the Fantastic 4 set.

The other option is to go with a fast forces pack -- not the individual fast forces boosters, but the prepackage multi-figure set -- they're out for Thor, Hulk, Guardians of the Galaxy and soon Chaos War. These include maps, but no rules which you can download anyway, and also no object tokens but you can also download them.

There will be a new Marvel starter with the Avengers movie figures coming out soon, prolly in the next few weeks or sooner.
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Been looking online and not easy to find much in the UK. Most stores have sold out. The avengers should be available by the end of the week, so looks like that will be the first one.

I understand you can buy bricks, but there are booster packs too? What do you get in those? Also rookie, experienced etc?

If you wanted superman for example, have you guys normally just bought from eBay?

Sorry for all the questions
 
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Glad to be able to help.

Re:Bricks vs Boosters: A brick is actually just 12 boosters sealed together. There's supposed to be an incentive to by it in a "brick" configuration for somewhat better collation of figures, and also a special brick figure. But lately the brick figures are lame and no one wants them anyway so they can be found on ebay for next to nothing.

Anyhow, there are 2 types of boosters now for every set --LOTR and star trek notwithstanding.

The standard/original booster has 5 random figures (and their cards). The new fast forces -- or whatever they are called -- are single figure/card boosters, and they have different stats than those in the 5-figure boosters for the same sculpts, i.e. Wizkids want you to buy both.

Given all the various configurations, it's very hard to justify buying the boosters unless you're in a tourney that requires sealed purchases.

The rookie, experience, veteran levels don't mean much anymore. In the old sets (pre-stat cards), each figure sculpt was released in those different stat levels to maximize the use of the sculpt and also allow for different point cost team builds.

Those levels are still used, but not for the same hero, and it's not for every figure in the set either.

What happens now is that if a sculpt is reused, it's for a different character. For example, the Maria Hill figure is the same sculpt as the SHIELD Specialist; Maria Hill is the experienced version and SHIELD specialist is the rookie.

However, gamewise, there's nothing that links them to each other.

I would just recommend getting what you want on ebay. I don't know about the UK, but web stores like Trollandtoad.com, miniaturemarket.com, and coolstuffinc.com have good singles to pick and choose from.

If you want to see figure dial stats and user comments on their playability, check out hcrealms.com.
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You can download the rules from the official Heroclix website, so most sets don't come with them anymore.
 
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The single figure boxes are called Gravity Feed boosters.
Fast Forces packs are clear plastic cases with 6 figures, dice and map.
The Avengers Movie Starter Set coming out next week I think, looks like a fast forces set but includes the latest rules, counters, and a map.

Hope this helps
 
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To start your collection, I suggest buying a Starter and a Fast Forces Pack. Then, when you are ready to buy boosters, do some research online and find the list of figures in each of the current sets so you know which boosters you want to buy.
 
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Thanks a lot for all the advice and taking the time to help. It's starting to make sense...you guys must have spent some serious money?

 
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papafuzzylugs wrote:
...you guys must have spent some serious money?



Not if you buy singles on ebay!!

Seriously, there are some many good figures now in the common/uncommon levels that you don't need to spend a lot to have fun.
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I think I've spent about $200 over time, and I have enough figures for me and a friend to construct squads and play against each other.
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I believe there are 10 boosters in a brick.
 
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ferris1971 wrote:
I believe there are 10 boosters in a brick.


Yeah correct... I am stuck in the old days of pre-card bricks...
 
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lordrahvin wrote:

I'd say that the best set to start with is the one with the latest rules and the highest quality figures. Therefore, you'd want the latest starter set released.

That is the Blackest Night starter set.


No longer true. It's the Avengers Movie Starter Set: rules, power card, maps, tokens (very nice ones) and six miniatures. It also has the up-to-date rules, which Blackest Night doesn't have.
 
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ferris1971 wrote:
I believe there are 10 boosters in a brick.


It varies from set to set. Hulk had 10 boosters in a brick, but Galactic Guardians (the new set) has 8 boosters + 1 super booster containing one or two Colossal figures.

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MerricB wrote:
lordrahvin wrote:

I'd say that the best set to start with is the one with the latest rules and the highest quality figures. Therefore, you'd want the latest starter set released.

That is the Blackest Night starter set.


No longer true. It's the Avengers Movie Starter Set: rules, power card, maps, tokens (very nice ones) and six miniatures. It also has the up-to-date rules, which Blackest Night doesn't have.


But the Blackest Night set has some AWESOME pieces, including a killer Blue Lantern Flash.

The pieces in the Avenger movie set aren't bad, but the gravity feeds for the set are better.

Boy, have they ever made it convoluted to collect their clix! In some ways it's liberating, though. I'm a completist, but since I have NO chance of getting everything, I'm free to just get what I want.
 
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Are you sure about this? I thought Blackest Night had the latest rules. What's changed, do you know? There's nothing on WizKids website. Not that that means anything.
 
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Blackest Night has the 2010 rules. The rules are currently on the 2011 version, along with the PAC card. These rules and PAC appear in the Lord of the Rings starter set and the Avengers Movie starter set. There are significant changes between the 2010 and 2011 rules.

(And you can download them from the heroclix.com site).

In addition, Blackest Night will no longer be legal in the Modern format as of July 1, 2012.
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Thanks for all the advice. I went ahead and ordered avengers movie starte, galactic guardians annihilaters pack & blackest night. Got the blackest night this morning so hoping to look at it later

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If you want to be up to date with everything HeroClix, then I'd follow their advice. HeroClix.com is a great resource.

However, the most current version of the game is also the most complicated. I started collecting when the game began, & the Rules & Powers & Abilities Card has gone through countless revisions & additions. (Including cards with the figures, like Heroscape, that wasn't the case originally. I like both games, but prefer HeroClix myself).

For a simpler version of the game (using currently retired figures) I'd consider getting the Danger Room starter set. It was the most current starter before the most dramatic HeroClix revamp.

In fact the original Marvel "Infinite Challenge" & DC "Hypertime" starters & Map Sets came with large 3 ft. x 3 ft. maps to play on. Later maps were much smaller, but incorporated elevation & terrain markings.
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rockxhero wrote:
If you want to be up to date with everything HeroClix, then I'd follow their advice. HeroClix.com is a great resource.


I'm sorry, but their website is complete garbage. Go the hcrealms.com, they have everything you could possibly want.
 
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