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Hey fellow (and prospective) Adventure System fans! I was inspired to put this together by this thread, and this post in particular.

I think these are great games, and part of the reason is the fact that these games come with a ton of minis and tiles that I can use in other ways. With Dungeon Command coming out, I wanted to look at the value I was getting out of these games in terms of minis and tiles, and do a little comparison.

I started by counting the minis and tiles in each game. Then based on the MSRP and an online game store's price, I divided to determine how much you would be paying per mini, per tile, or per mini and tile. This gives you an idea of what you're getting if you wanted to pick up the game just to get some minis, just for the tiles, or for both. And this doesn't even take into account the great value of the games themselves!

Let's look at some numbers, then I'll explain the 'adjusted' column below...

Castle Ravenloft

actual adjusted
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Minis 42 46
Tiles 41 43

MSRP 64.99 64.99
per mini 1.55 1.41
per tile 1.59 1.51
per mini/tile 0.78 0.73

OLGS 42.49 42.49
per mini 1.01 0.92
per tile 1.04 0.99
per mini/tile 0.51 0.48


Wrath of Ashardalon

actual adjusted
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Minis 42 46
Tiles 41 44

MSRP 64.99 64.99
per mini 1.55 1.41
per tile 1.59 1.48
per mini/tile 0.78 0.72

OLGS 42.49 42.49
per mini 1.01 0.92
per tile 1.04 0.97
per mini/tile 0.51 0.47


Legend of Drizzt

actual adjusted
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Minis 40 46
Tiles 58 43

MSRP 64.99 64.99
per mini 1.62 1.41
per tile 1.12 1.51
per mini/tile 0.66 0.73

OLGS 42.49 42.49
per mini 1.06 0.92
per tile 0.73 0.99
per mini/tile 0.43 0.48


Now, the adjusted column uses a different total for minis and tiles. It's meant to compensate for the different sizes of each. For the minis, I just added 1 for large minis and 2 for huge, giving the bigger ones a little more weight based on their base diameter.

For tiles it was a bit more involved. When I counted the tiles, I also counted the actual floor space of the tile, that is, squares that are not blocked by walls or terrain features. Then I totaled the floor space and divided by 10 to get the adjusted tile value. This means the adjusted tiles is based on an estimate of 10 free squares per 16 square tile. Why bother with this? For one thing, it balances out all the cavern edge tiles in Drizzt. It also lets me make some estimated comparisons with Dungeon Command, and hopefully other games that share a similar mini and tile system.

Because Dungeon Command uses larger tiles (4x8 and 8x8 as far as I can tell), the actual values don't line up too well with the AS games. However if we use the 10/16 estimate, we can get a better idea of the relative value of the games. The following numbers are estimates based on available images of Dungeon Command minis, tiles and boxes.

Dungeon Command (Single Faction)

actual adjusted
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Minis 12 15
Tiles 4 12

MSRP 39.99 39.99
per mini 3.33 2.67
per tile 10.00 3.33
per mini/tile 2.50 1.48

OLGS 26.39 26.39
per mini 2.20 1.76
per tile 6.60 2.20
per mini/tile 1.65 0.98


And finally, the totals for all 3 Adventure System games, and 4 Dungeon Command factions.

Dungeons and Dragons Adventure System Board Games

actual adjusted
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Minis 124 138
Tiles 140 130

MSRP 194.97 194.97
per mini 1.57 1.41
per tile 1.39 1.50
per mini/tile 0.74 0.73

OLGS 127.47 127.47
per mini 1.03 0.92
per tile 0.91 0.98
per mini/tile 0.48 0.48


Dungeon Command (4 Factions)

actual adjusted
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Minis 48 60
Tiles 16 48

MSRP 159.96 159.96
per mini 3.33 2.67
per tile 10.00 3.33
per mini/tile 2.50 1.48

OLGS 105.56 105.56
per mini 2.20 1.76
per tile 6.60 2.20
per mini/tile 1.65 0.98


So what does this all tell us? Well, if you're looking to pick up some tiles and minis and you buy an AS game, you'll be paying about 50 cents per mini and tile. If you go with DC, you'll be paying about a dollar (all values are in USD). However, keep in mind for that added cost you're getting painted minis and double-sided tiles! In either case you're getting a pretty darn good deal when compared with singles, boosters, and other ways of acquiring minis and tiles. Add to that the game systems, adventures, cards and tokens, and you've got an incredible value in these boxes, and a great addition to any collection.

I hope someone out there finds this helpful. If you see any problems with my math, please let me know. I don't own Descent, Gears of War, or any other games of this type, but I'd be very interested to see how they stack up. Descent may have to wait for 2nd edition for a useful price comparison, but anyone willing to take this on would have my appreciation. Whew! If you made it this far, thanks for reading and happy gaming!

Edit: Corrected DC (4 Factions) actual Tiles, because 4x4=16, not 12. Duh.
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Great work! Now go buy Descent 1st ed plus all its expansions and do them... whistle

Seriously though, have a for your efforts.
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D6Frog wrote:
That was fast!!! laugh

Yeah, it's not weird that I found it really fun to count all those bits, is it?

ninjadorg wrote:
Great work! Now go buy Descent 1st ed plus all its expansions and do them... whistle

Seriously though, have a for your efforts.

Thanks! Haha, I wish! Of course, if anyone happens to have an extra copy lying around...
 
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