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I think the card stock for all the components is too thin, the victory points chips are ridiculously too small, and the building tiles really really need pictures on them. A new printing should fix these issues without having to buy an overpriced limited edition of the game, especially due to its classic status. I do like the game a lot, but the experience would be even better if it were made of quality components.
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I think you're right, but the new components are very nice
 
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I think the old components are fine, but with the anniversary edition available, I don't see the issue. Obviously a component upgrade is going to come with a slightly higher price tag.
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I think the components are perfectly functional and the hallmark of Euro style board games. Sure, design and component quality has come a long way, but when Puerto Rico first came out I think people were very enamored with it. Some appreciate the uncluttered style of design. In no way do I think the components "suck"...buy, hey, that's just me.


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Sucks compared to what? I played the original edition twice recently and it is fine. Any game could do with metal coins, but few people would want to actually pay for them.
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Cannibal Ox wrote:
It's not just you. It's just the way the components are for all of Alea's releases. Thin, low quality cardboard with minimal artwork and color palettes.


I'm not sure what you mean by "Thin, low quality cardboard." The cardboard is certainly thinner than what is in a lot of more recent games, but I can't think of a reason to call it low quality. The cardboard parts in my copy of Puerto Rico have held up very well over dozens of plays over many years. I can think of two other people I know with older, heavily played copies of Puerto Rico, and their copies look great too. My experience has never been that the cardboard in this game was low quality. Have you had a different experience?
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Yup, it is subpar but with the special edition there is no sense in complaining as you have the option to pay for quality components for a fair price.

Still, the regular edition of PR has better components than some modern games such as Ora et Labora and Die Brugen von Burgung IMO.
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tkzubaran wrote:
Yup, it is subpar but with the special edition there is no sense in complaining as you have the option to pay for quality components for a fair price.

Still, the regular edition of PR has better components than some modern games such as Ora et Labora and Die Brugen von Burgung IMO.



The MSRP of the Limited Edition is about $100, though you can get it for around $75. Minus the metal coins, you can get other games with about equal components as PR limited edition for around 35. Ive seen Stone Age (granted its not as good of a game as PR...but to me its still a great game) for UNDER $30, and the components of Stone Age are VASTLY superior to base PR. Im just saying I shouldnt have to pay nearly $100 once you tac on s&h to get decent components.
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Ive seen Stone Age (granted its not as good of a game as PR...but to me its still a great game) for UNDER $30, and the components of Stone Age are VASTLY superior to base PR.


Really?

Item Stone Age Puerto Rico Additional Comments
Wood Check Check Some of Stone Age's wooden bits are bigger
Cards OK Not required
Tokens Food VP and Coins I don't remember Stone Age being any better
Dice Yes Not required Puerto Rico is a diceless game
Dice Cup Yes Not required Puerto Rico is a diceless game
Buildings Thicker Not as thick Really makes no difference
Box Closes Fail Check Puerto Rico better.


The only noticeable difference I see is that the building tiles in Stone Age are thicker and that the Puerto Rico game box actually closes with its components inside.
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Karlsen wrote:
pfctsqr wrote:
Ive seen Stone Age (granted its not as good of a game as PR...but to me its still a great game) for UNDER $30, and the components of Stone Age are VASTLY superior to base PR.


Really?

Item Stone Age Puerto Rico Additional Comments
Wood Check Check Some of Stone Age's wooden bits are bigger
Cards OK Not required
Tokens Food VP and Coins I don't remember Stone Age being any better
Dice Yes Not required Puerto Rico is a diceless game
Dice Cup Yes Not required Puerto Rico is a diceless game
Buildings Thicker Not as thick Really makes no difference
Box Closes Fail Check Puerto Rico better.


The only noticeable difference I see is that the building tiles in Stone Age are thicker and that the Puerto Rico game box actually closes with its components inside.



The box doesnt close? Mine does. There are two other copies in my gaming group...and they close fine too. And you dont think the food tokens are better quality than the base edition PR victory point chips and coins? Well...ok then.
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They may have fixed it in later printings, but the first edition of Stone Age, the box does not close completely.
 
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I agrees that the components in STone Age are superior to PR (Have both) but they're 6 years apart (year of 1st. Publish) so maybe that has something to do with it, because since 2002 a lot has changed in the boardgame world.
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Puerto Rico's components are great! You may not like the way they look, but it's sturdy stuff. All of my alea games have great components that last through multiple plays and even beverage spills.
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*** Negative statement coming *** devil

Since I'm not 5 years old, the components don't really matter.

*** End Of Negativity ***

I understand what you are saying though. BUT, Should they have crafted the corn into an ear of corn? If you answer yes, then what should indigo be? without Google-ing, how many of you out here know what "indigo" is? If you do know what it is, how would you craft a game piece out of wood to represent it?

For me, it all comes back to old school RPG video games. I would much rather play Final Fantasy 6 (US FF3) for the Super Nintendo over almost any RPG made today because of the plot of the game. Graphics don't really do much for me. The same applies to board games.
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*** Negative statement coming *** devil

Since I'm not 5 years old, the components don't really matter.

*** End Of Negativity ***

I understand what you are saying though. BUT, Should they have crafted the corn into an ear of corn? If you answer yes, then what should indigo be? without Google-ing, how many of you out here know what "indigo" is? If you do know what it is, how would you craft a game piece out of wood to represent it?

For me, it all comes back to old school RPG video games. I would much rather play Final Fantasy 6 (US FF3) for the Super Nintendo over almost any RPG made today because of the plot of the game. Graphics don't really do much for me. The same applies to board games.



You can attach all the lofty reasons you want for playing boardgames, but the real reason all of us grown-ups play boardgames boils down to this: we are adults looking for an excuse to play with toys. So when I am playing games of any degree of complexity, even though I am in my mid 40's, I am at that moment 5. And I am proud of it, thank you very much.
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My components are fine. Must be a different edition.
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Thickness is not the best measure of quality stock. Fantasy Flight gets praise because of their thick pieces, but it tends to de-laminate quickly. Puerto Rico has had no issues. I'll take dense over thick any day.
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pfctsqr wrote:
donnyrides wrote:
*** Negative statement coming *** devil

Since I'm not 5 years old, the components don't really matter.

*** End Of Negativity ***

I understand what you are saying though. BUT, Should they have crafted the corn into an ear of corn? If you answer yes, then what should indigo be? without Google-ing, how many of you out here know what "indigo" is? If you do know what it is, how would you craft a game piece out of wood to represent it?

For me, it all comes back to old school RPG video games. I would much rather play Final Fantasy 6 (US FF3) for the Super Nintendo over almost any RPG made today because of the plot of the game. Graphics don't really do much for me. The same applies to board games.



You can attach all the lofty reasons you want for playing boardgames, but the real reason all of us grown-ups play boardgames boils down to this: we are adults looking for an excuse to play with toys. So when I am playing games of any degree of complexity, even though I am in my mid 40's, I am at that moment 5. And I am proud of it, thank you very much.


Annoyed you are speaking for "all of us"....

This runs on the incorrect assumption that "toys" are for children of single-digit years. Just not true. At no point do I feel like "a child" playing a board game. They also need a mentality of a day-gone-by to enjoy at times, but that does not mean I am "5" when I play them. Quite contrary to that fact I'd say that playing boardgames has the added benefit of 'maturing' a young person in a favorable manner.

Thank you very much...66


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knifie_sp00nie wrote:
Thickness is not the best measure of quality stock. Fantasy Flight gets praise because of their thick pieces, but it tends to de-laminate quickly. Puerto Rico has had no issues. I'll take dense over thick any day.


If I notice the artwork starting to scuff, I will go outside on a sunny warm day and spray pieces, boards, and/or boxes with a quick coat of clear acrylic. Enamel works, too. It dries in a matter of minutes and keeps the artwork in place.
 
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Such a simple and reasonable comment from the original poster.. why are so many people dismissing it and pointing annoyed at the 80$ edition? Pieces of cardboard don't need people defending their feelings.

Wtv, the new Spaniard version apparently addresses some of the issues. Maybe a English reprint will follow.

 





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I don't think the base version sucks at all. PR rocks and nothing can take that away from it... artwork *would* be nice, but imagination is where it's at!
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An upgraded English base version with artwork would be nice.
 
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I fully agree with this complain. I'm just starting out my boardgame collection after being hooked by Catan and I bought both Small World and Puerto Rico at the same time. I've read both rulebooks and I think PR is by far the better game, but at first glance the first game I wanted to play was Small World because it's production values are top notch. And this feeling was shared by my group as well.

Sure, lasting impact is the most important thing and Puerto Rico has made a name for itself, but there are many high quality, full of beautiful art games selling for US$30 that I don't understand how can a classic game such as Puerto Rico go without a graphic overhaul for so long.
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[yes, reviving a dead thread, get over it]


jefftang wrote:
An upgraded English base version with artwork would be nice.
With the collectors edition, I doubt they'll do this and cannibalize sales of that.
 
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