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I have a real urge to play a wargame.
I want to push little chits around.
I want to sink the quinqueremes at Erbo.
I want to storm the walls of Alesia.
I want to smash the French at Crecy.
I want to meet Napoleon at Waterloo.
I want to humble the Confederates at Gettysburg.
I want to fire the Guns of August.
I want to storm the streets of Stalingrad.
I want to brave the jungles of Vietman.
I want to launch my harriers at the Falklands.

But, I want to feel it. Sometimes Vassal just feels too virtual. I want the feel of cardboard under my fingers...

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GeneSteeler wrote:
...I want the feel of cardboard under my fingers...
Me, too. And I have yet to Vassal.

But it's so much more than pushing carboard, isn't it? There's the punching, the sorting, the reading rules, the applying rules, the getting-it-wrong-then-getting-it-right. It's the bringing to bear past experience into new and present situations.

Sometimes (rarely) it's the clipping of bunny tails, or teaching, or seeing the lights go on in the other guy's eyes. He's certain he will defeat you, but he doesn't know your motar's about to disable his tank, and that bridge he so babdly needs will become impassible!
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I love the smell of cardboard in the morning.
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GeneSteeler wrote:

I want to smash the French at Crecy.



You can do that. It's called assault though. First they charge you and then deport you.
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superflat wrote:
GeneSteeler wrote:
...I want the feel of cardboard under my fingers...
Me, too. And I have yet to Vassal.

But it's so much more than pushing carboard, isn't it? There's the punching, the sorting, the reading rules, the applying rules, the getting-it-wrong-then-getting-it-right. It's the bringing to bear past experience into new and present situations.

Sometimes (rarely) it's the clipping of bunny tails, or teaching, or seeing the lights go on in the other guy's eyes. He's certain he will defeat you, but he doesn't know your motar's about to disable his tank, and that bridge he so babdly needs will become impassible!


Me and my buddys always remember our cardboard victorys but never our computer ones!
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If you throw all your chits and maps in one box, you can sink the Confederates at Stalingrad.
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mrbeankc wrote:


First they charge you and then deport you.


So France is a strip club?
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SimGuy wrote:
I love the smell of cardboard in the morning.

I love the smell of "burning" cardboard in the morning.

No, wait... that's a bad thing. Nevermind.
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GeneSteeler wrote:
I have a real urge to play a wargame.
I want to push little chits around.
I want to sink the quinqueremes at Erbo.
I want to storm the walls of Alesia.
I want to smash the French at Crecy.
I want to meet Napoleon at Waterloo.
I want to humble the Confederates at Gettysburg.
I want to fire the Guns of August.
I want to storm the streets of Stalingrad.
I want to brave the jungles of Vietman.
I want to launch my harriers at the Falklands.

But, I want to feel it. Sometimes Vassal just feels too virtual. I want the feel of cardboard under my fingers...


Can't we just send in Ironman instead?
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I just post to agree with you. I need the tactile feeling.
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I had a great reminder of why I like face to face gaming to online gaming. Played Sword of Rome last night with three other guys. We spent most of the night laughing and some time planning devious and cunning methods of toppling empires. I lost, but still had fun.

It seems that whenever I play games online I spend my time planning and then plodding through my moves and I never really get to hear the sound of laughter.
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It would be kind of off if you just sat in front of the monitor cackling to yourself...
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NJames wrote:
It would be kind of off if you just sat in front of the monitor cackling to yourself...


Uh... really?

*cough*

Um, right! That's why I naver do that! whistle
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That's exactly what a "Miniatures-monogamous" friend calls us: "Cardboard pushers".
 
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"Bob? Dude, it's me. Yeah, just getting out of the shower. Grab a couple sixes and get over here. We'll push some counters around then hang out in oversized fur coats for a while."
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That's exactly what a "Miniatures-monogamous" friend calls us: "Cardboard pushers".


As opposed to "Lead pushers," I suppose! (Actually these days it's often "Pewter pushers.")

I push both, so I'm not insulting anybody.
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My options are:

A: Push cardboard counters by myself.
B: Play vs a real person via Vassal and Skype. I only play live no pbem.

So what do I do? BOTH. I always have a solo game on the table and several live vassal games going.

My druthers? To play live ftf in person. Unfortunately that happens far too little.
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martimer wrote:

It seems that whenever I play games online I spend my time planning and then plodding through my moves and I never really get to hear the sound of laughter.


I play online (vassal/skype) a lot. I wish you could hear all the laughing , jokes, and nonsense that goes on (as well as lots of serious wargaming!) with my friends. We have an absolute blast!
I agree that it would be better in person but I am continually amazed at the good friends I talk with all the time by skype and all the fun we have and we have never met in person!
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To me it's not just the feel of the counters. It is also about the visual. Fire in the East could never be duplicated on Vassel simply because you could never get the entire full visual image of the map. There is nothing more magestic than FitE or World in Flames set up in all it's glory.



The shear size of it. The ability to look at the entire Campaign, or world, in a single glance. This is what Vassel lacks for me. You can't recreate this on a computer screen.
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GeneSteeler wrote:
I want the feel of cardboard under my fingers...

I am guessing you still have not received your copy of Kursk: South Flank.
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sguard wrote:
Me and my buddys always remember our cardboard victorys but never our computer ones!
laugh So true, so true!
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