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Been happy playing the Base game (easier w/spray painted factions) then
went on to play the two games in my buddy’s expansion. Was under the
naïve assumption that I had the penultimate; that the second edition was
just a recent reprint. Finally getting the base game on the table, I
realized too late what needed to be done to upgrade my set.

Since my first edition has been greatly modified (new
“readable” cards, painted figures, etc.) I couldn’t just
throw my expansion into the same Plano “tackle” bag.
Here are the three main areas of attack:

1. Add “readable” versions of the new cards
(in appropriate sleeves, of course)

2. Painting the expansion figures to match the factions
in my base set (not just red and blue).

3. Printing the latest, balanced ruleset, FAQs, player aids, etc.
to facilitate base game play.

Trying to record the best info in one spot (ultimately) instead
of the lengthy searching through PAGES of files in MANY places.
 
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1. PLEASE, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE ARE “READABLE” VERSIONS OF THE
NEW “EXPANSION” CARDS THAT UPDATE THE ORIGINAL CARDS? (about a dozen)
I think they all have a "b" in their card number.

“aforeandy” did a fantastic job of producing these first edition cards:
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/21441/wotr-sa-cards-doc
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/21440/wotr-fp-cards-doc

There is also this “big print” version (by "bdst" Brian Stephens):
http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/51072/card-inserts-with-la...

 
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ITEM 1 cont. The new expansion cards (marked “B”) consist of 14 cards.
Six cards replace First edition cards, the other eight are new: two in
each of the four decks. Since my “readable” first edition decks are
sleeved in 4 different colors, I will need only two sleeves of each
color. The hard part is drawing the 14 readable new cards.

Another bunch of cards that could do with “improving” are the
“character” cards that simply serve as player aids describing each
major character’s ability.

Wading through the TONS of WOTR info files, I starting to collect
pertinent info and distill it here. Some people prefer the base game as
simpler, quicker; others say all the additions make a richer experience
without taking longer. Both claim the other is “scripted” and “limiting”.
Being a “populist”; I’m following the WBC convention’s lead and
Bringing my copy up to “expansion/2nd edition” standards.

Another advantage of convention play, is to gain another point of view
to discover what we’re missing. Our base games NEVER end in a
ring dunk, and we rarely get the minions involved, etc.
 
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Buy the upgrade kit. It costs about $20 online. All of the cards are printed in a larger, easy to read size. They come with sleeves to fit. Then download the v2 rules. Expansions for v1 are not compatible with v2 due to the rebalancing that v2 cards and rules incorporate.
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Thanks for saving me from heading off in the “wrong” direction.
I’m still confused as to whether ANY of my expansion is useful
with my first edition. It seems the map and figures are still good;
it is mainly the cards (and downloading the rules; free from the
Ares Games web site,).

Here are some of the sites discussing the upgrade:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/706950/own-1st-edition-is-bu...

http://www.aresgames.eu/games/war-of-the-ring-line

ONLINE at $24/$20 seems kinda’ steep for 110 cards and sleeves; are they
just readable versions of the ones I have in BOTA?
http://www.thewarstore.com/product71021.html

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/Board%20Games/War+of+the+Ring+...

“Ares Games will offer a War of the Ring Second Edition Upgrade Kit for owners of the 1st Edition (which was sold in the U.S. by Fantasy Flight Games). The Upgrade Kit will include the Event and Character Card decks from 2nd Edition, card protectors, and an embossed metal tin with art by John Howe. Along with the 2nd Edition rules, which can be downloaded from the Ares site, players can then play 2nd Edition using the rest of the 1st Edition set.”

This is raising even more questions:
1. Does the upgrade+First edition do without the extra figures?
2. Are the cards very different?
3. Are these downloadable new rules “better”?
4. Can I just “fix” the “readable” first edition cards I have?
5. How will this all work with the NEW expansion rumored for Sept 2012?

From WOTR designer, Roberto Di Meglio
“We expect this to be a small expansion - character figures,
special dice, 30 cards, cardboard counters and rules.

We don't have the exact price or component list yet, but we expect it to be priced (SRP) around $ 25. “

SO MANY OPTIONS!
 
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Just found this comparison:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/738666/2nd-edition-review-a-...

And these figures needed from the expansion for “Twilight in the Third Age”:
• 41 New Figures:
• Galadriel
• The Balrog
• The Witch-King: Chief of the Ringwraiths
• The Hillmen of Dunland (12 figures)
• The Corsairs of Umbar (6 figures)
• The Ents of Fangorn (8 figures)
• Siege Engines (6 “Towers” and 6
“Trebuchets”)
 
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I defer to the experienced game masters at my favorite convention, WBC;
when there is a choice of ways to play. They have seen what works to make
for balanced play. The expansion game is the default version that will be
used at WBC 2012. Eventually, they may go to the Second edition.


To be flexible and to build on what I already have; I will continue to
prepare for WBC while keeping my options open. The reservations
I have about buying the $20 upgrade cards for v.1 are not the price or
the unwanted sleeves or storage tin. The cards are enlarged but the low-
contrast text still appears hard-to-read.

Keeping posting here as a depository AND to help others who stumble
across it.
 
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Opinions:
++++ Uthoroc:
"I do find the 2ed more fun, since it is offers more valid strategy options and is not as dominated by the Shadow military strategy. Some of the new options in BotTA, like the Corsairs, were really used too rarely, and I wasn't particularly fond of the siege engine mechanic."
+++++Typhoon:
“My feelings exactly. The BotTA Corsairs were clunky, too difficult to use, and telegraphed one's intention far in advance -- the exact opposite of the sudden and unexpected attack that they represented in the books. Given the choice, I far prefer how they are represented in the base game (and 2nd edition).

And siege engines.... blech. They just dragged the game out longer.

Galadriel focused too much attention on Lorien, at the expense of other targets.

And the Smeagol mechanic introduced even more randomness to the one part of the game LEAST in need of more randomness (the Ring Hunt).

Good riddance of BotTA, I say. I put it away once the 2nd edition came out, and have had absolutely no desire to revisit it. “
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So, I guess the added figures to the 1st edition were really cosmetic and a dead end; only
to be used for the two battles, Minas Tirith and Rohan.
 
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1.CARDS: EZ READ:

 
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1.CARDS; Saved for future use.
 
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