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Some background: I am currently living in Chongqing, China. Around China, the most popular board game with the younger generation is Legends of the Three Kingdoms (SGS) - a game that mercilessly copied the popular game BANG!. When I say that SGS is popular, I mean that you see kids playing this game everywhere. I've seen college kids playing it in Chengdu tea houses, and middle school kids playing it in playground parks. As is normal in China, the game has been copied, cloned and re-themed countless times. For a better understanding of the situation, you can read a recent thread I posted in the Chinese forum section.

Anyway, the point is that recently a lot of other popular games have been copied in China. I have pictures of a game I discovered that I suspect of being a copy, although I can't put my finger on what game it copies in particular. Here are some photos I took while trying to avoid the security guard (using cameras in stores to take pictures of products is highly discouraged here):

The game is called "The Chronicles of Dragon Wing" (龙翼编年史)



Anyone recognize the board on the back as belonging to another game?
 
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Tough one. First I thought Cavum, but then I saw all the cards and thought La Città, but then I saw the dice, and it totally threw me for a loop.
 
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Looks kind of like Runebound (Second Edition).
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Tons of pictures on the website. Heroes:


Equipment cards:


Event cards:


And elsewhere, board details:


It does look more like Runebound than anything else I can think of.
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Runebound board for comparison:

 
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Runebound board is much larger. The Chinese one is 9 X 11 hexes.
 
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It's not Runebound.
Whatever it is it looks very cool tho!
 
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Here's a better shot of the components.

 
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the two tracks down the sides remind me of Arabian Nights goal tracks, but everything else looks like Runebound style. Not sure Martin wants to go through another IP court, so I think if it is a Runebound ripoff, it won't have any trouble as long as it stays in the East.
 
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Also, even if it is derivative of Runebound, it doesn't look like a straight copy, so probably not actionable (I am not a lawyer). Most of the true knockoffs I've seen are exact copies of the art with just text subbed out.
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Board games have really taken off in China in the last few years, problem is they all play bootlegs -_- You can buy them really cheap even in vendor stalls set outside. I've seen Agricola, Le Havre, Yomi, Carcassonne, Kakerlaken Poker, The Resistance, Citadels, etc. in the Ladies Market in Hong Kong (last week). The card games can be had for $2-$3.

I also found some chinese derivatives of real games, for example 铁老大, is a rip-off of Ticket to Ride, with a map of China.



The components in that one actually look better than the real one lol!
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ropearoni4 wrote:
it won't have any trouble as long as it stays in the East.


AHA -- Martin's moving there from the west!
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aforandy wrote:
ropearoni4 wrote:
it won't have any trouble as long as it stays in the East.


AHA -- Martin's moving there from the west!


He was going to Australia. Guess I should've said, "stays up north...in the East."
 
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junkyspam7 wrote:
Isn't everything in China stolen IP? whistle

I guess when your civilization is 1000's of years old, you run out of original ideas eventually.
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junkyspam7 wrote:
Isn't everything in China stolen IP? whistle


I guess they didn't get the Great Wall notarized?
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Holy crap...it has MagicYang...BGG Top 10 guaranteed. Pre-Order submitted.
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I have spot other games as well, this time they copy it directly and just paste the chinese translation on it.

Settlers of Catan
http://www.win2shop.com/?id=24&pid=4587&ma=0&ctsp=26434

Bang, Saboteur etc
http://www.win2shop.com/?id=24&pid=4587&ma=0&ctsp=26434
 
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I want to know what the sheep game above it is.
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Is that a Warcraft Demon Hunter on the cover?
 
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ralpher wrote:
Is that a Warcraft Demon Hunter on the cover?

I'm not really sure. Haven't played WoW before so... From here:


Edit: A slightly better picture of the box art:


And another picture that has what looks like a Night Elf?

 
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Samort7 wrote:
Here are some photos I took while trying to avoid the security guard (using cameras in stores to take pictures of products is highly discouraged here):


I'm more interested in this part of the OP. Any idea why?
 
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elgin_j wrote:
Samort7 wrote:
Here are some photos I took while trying to avoid the security guard (using cameras in stores to take pictures of products is highly discouraged here):


I'm more interested in this part of the OP. Any idea why?


Erm, because the stores are full of bootlegged products, per chance?
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:
elgin_j wrote:
Samort7 wrote:
Here are some photos I took while trying to avoid the security guard (using cameras in stores to take pictures of products is highly discouraged here):


I'm more interested in this part of the OP. Any idea why?


Erm, because the stores are full of bootlegged products, per chance?

I'm guessing this. If I were a normal Chinese, they probably wouldn't care, but since I'm an obvious white foreigner, they might figure I'm looking to make trouble.
 
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NateStraight wrote:
I want to know what the sheep game above it is.

This game appears to be based on the popular Chinese children's show Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf.
 
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It seems there are two sides on the board depending on how many people you play with:



Seems the game was even in attendance at the IEBG (the International Exhibition on Board Game Industry) in Shanghai:



And had people cosplaying the characters from it:



Looks like it won some awards too:


 
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