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I have been interested in Automobile for some time. Was curious as what other game you would compare it too?
 
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It reminded me a lot of Steam. At least the roll selection/turn order mechanic is the same. Automobile doesn't have Steam's spacial elements so it feels more "straight economic" to me.
 
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Well, it's a pure economic game, like Brass: Lancashire, but those two don't have much in common. The basic concept is you produce items (cars) and try to sell them for a profit. There are some much older games that use that as a basis (like the 40 year old 3M/AH classic Executive Decision from Sid Sackson), but I can't think of any recent games that do that. The interesting thing in Automobile is it punishes you if you overproduce and also has a more realistic model of production costs, all within a fairly simple system.

One game it does feel like, strangely enough, is The Princes of Florence, even though mechanically and theme-wise, they have nothing in common. That's because in both games, you have a tiny number of actions to meet your goals. It makes both games really tense, since every action counts. Automobile is one of all-time favorite games and I can't recommend it enough to fans of heavy economic games.
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Monitoring this thread, as Automobile is a favorite, and I am always looking for similar games.

I agree with Larry, some games give bits and pieces of feel, but it seems fairly unique. One game, that I recently picked up, that reminded me a bit of Automobile, was Vinhos. Probably only because they are both big economic games, with a bit of that risk taking element, considering over-production and over-planting, respectively. Also, very tense decisions from a very finite list of potential actions.
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sisteray wrote:

The cake is a lie. So is this. shake

Honestly, I played Locomotive Werks quite a bit when it first came out and, other than the fact that they both have production items on a timeline, in which later versions make the older ones obsolete, I can think of nothing they have in common. If other gamers hadn't brought it up, it never would have occurred to me to compare them. Since several people, including Morgan, have opined that the games are similar, maybe I need to give LW another try to see if I've forgotten anything. But based on my recollections, they're very different games (and I think Automobile is far superior to LW, which we stopped playing because we thought it had some issues).
 
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Larry Levy wrote:
sisteray wrote:

The cake is a lie. So is this. :shake:

Honestly, I played Locomotive Werks quite a bit when it first came out and, other than the fact that they both have production items on a timeline, in which later versions make the older ones obsolete, I can think of nothing they have in common. If other gamers hadn't brought it up, it never would have occurred to me to compare them. Since several people, including Morgan, have opined that the games are similar, maybe I need to give LW another try to see if I've forgotten anything. But based on my recollections, they're very different games (and I think Automobile is far superior to LW, which we stopped playing because we thought it had some issues).


as per my comparative review from years gone past: Automobile is completely different because
a) automobile has a lot more chrome and fiddly rules
b) automobile has hidden demand information about the current turn vs
LW's hidden information about the next turn.
c) automobile punishes you for overproduction (vs LW's punishment for underproduction)
d) automobile tends to have fairly flat scoring.
e) Martin Wallace fans love it.

Although, I notice that you wrote almost the same thing back in that other thread too.

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Larry Levy wrote:
sisteray wrote:

The cake is a lie. So is this. shake

Honestly, I played Locomotive Werks quite a bit when it first came out and, other than the fact that they both have production items on a timeline, in which later versions make the older ones obsolete, I can think of nothing they have in common. If other gamers hadn't brought it up, it never would have occurred to me to compare them. Since several people, including Morgan, have opined that the games are similar, maybe I need to give LW another try to see if I've forgotten anything. But based on my recollections, they're very different games (and I think Automobile is far superior to LW, which we stopped playing because we thought it had some issues).


I never said that they were the same game, if Locomotive Werks was good, or if Automobile isn't superior. I'm answering the OP, and I find that both games have some similar qualities.
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Isn't this game just a beefed-up version of Tinners' Trail? I've played that one and the players I was with said this one just has a few things added with a different theme.
 
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thedacker wrote:
Isn't this game just a beefed-up version of Tinners' Trail? I've played that one and the players I was with said this one just has a few things added with a different theme.


No. There are somewhat recognisable Wallace elements but this game is chromey and revolves around technology progression, while the Tinner's Trail is quite simple and elegant and revolves around efficient use of very limited time.

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thepackrat wrote:
thedacker wrote:
Isn't this game just a beefed-up version of Tinners' Trail? I've played that one and the players I was with said this one just has a few things added with a different theme.


No. There are somewhat recognisable Wallace elements but this game is chromey and revolves around technology progression, while the Tinner's Trail is quite simple and elegant and revolves around efficient use of very limited time.

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Thanks for clearing that up for me Bruce. Maybe they were saying it just felt kind of similar and I misinterpreted them. At any rate, I really enjoyed my game of TT. It offered a lot of interesting decisions with a relatively simple set of rules and a very quick time frame. It will be my next Wallace purchase. If only I could get ahold of the Treefrog edition...
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You might be able to find someone who wanted to "upgrade"

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