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I just got the game from a Math Trade, and I noticed the "Second Edition" on the cover of the box.

What is the difference between the second and the previous edition(s)?
 
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Pretty sure it's just that the errata has been applied.
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RandomGraham wrote:
Pretty sure it's just that the errata has been applied.

It's not just "errata".

They made fundamental changes to the rules and components. The second edition has Martin's attempted "fix" to address broken strategies in the game. It also removed the French Bateaux card.

It's a different game now.
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Lacking a French Bateaux card and rules changes.
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out4blood wrote:
RandomGraham wrote:
Pretty sure it's just that the errata has been applied.

They made fundamental changes to the rules and components. The second edition has Martin's attempted "fix" to address broken strategies in the game. It also removed the French Bateaux card.


Was the French bateaux replaced with something else?
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out4blood wrote:
RandomGraham wrote:
Pretty sure it's just that the errata has been applied.

It's not just "errata".

They made fundamental changes to the rules and components. The second edition has Martin's attempted "fix" to address broken strategies in the game. It also removed the French Bateaux card.

It's a different game now.


Thanks for the answers.

I play this currently on Yucata.de. Is this the same edition I play there?
 
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dumpty wrote:
out4blood wrote:
RandomGraham wrote:
Pretty sure it's just that the errata has been applied.

They made fundamental changes to the rules and components. The second edition has Martin's attempted "fix" to address broken strategies in the game. It also removed the French Bateaux card.


Was the French bateaux replaced with something else?
No, in an attempt to make the first edition downgradable into the second.
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Is the Second Edition rulebook posted anywhere?
 
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After playing at Origins and on Yucata.de since then, I'm looking forward to finally getting my second edition copy in the mail soon.

One question -- does the second edition include the Random Rules Generator that's been nicely implemented on Yucata.de?
 
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No.
 
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Ah, too bad. Is there an English version of the RRG available somewhere? I couldn't see anything in the BGG files section, and remember seing only an Italian version in a BGG thread.
 
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Yeah there's definitely a fan translation somewhere...
 
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Does it fix the HH issue or is it still an auto win for the English ?

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ghopper21 wrote:
Ah, too bad. Is there an English version of the RRG available somewhere? I couldn't see anything in the BGG files section, and remember seing only an Italian version in a BGG thread.

http://bgg.cc/article/8840089#8840089 or
http://i.imgur.com/IZCWK.jpg !
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I've read the random generated rules and they seem to favor the French a lot, or is only my impression?

I'm also playing a game with the English and I'm getting my ass handed to me - admittedly I'm no expert of the game.
 
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The Prophet wrote:

Does it fix the HH issue or is it still an auto win for the English ?

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Does what fix the HH? The answer is probably no, depending on what "it" is. The random rules generator might fix the HH, depending on a lot of different things. It is, after all, random.
 
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jimmcmahon wrote:
Is the Second Edition rulebook posted anywhere?

http://www.treefroggames.com/wp-content/uploads/rules/few-ac...
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clydeiii wrote:
The Prophet wrote:

Does it fix the HH issue or is it still an auto win for the English ?

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Does what fix the HH? The answer is probably no, depending on what "it" is. The random rules generator might fix the HH, depending on a lot of different things. It is, after all, random.


I was asking about the 2nd edition ruleset & I got my answer reading another thread. The HH sadly still works. As much as I wanted to like that game when I got it, it is still broken.

Too bad...

Nick 'The Prophet'
 
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What is HH?
 
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What is HH?
Halifax Hammer...a strategy that allows Brits to win 100% of the time. See the strategy forums if you'd like to know more (though hint: it begins with Halifax).
 
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