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Does anyone know of any commercially available 17 X 17 Go boards?

I am interested in trying to play Go really "old school".

I understand that 17 X 17 go is/was recently played in Tibet.
 
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Smart Go Kifu for iOS has 17 x 17, as well as 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 and 19. Looks great on the iPad!
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Eh, that's pretty niche. Most people who want to play Go variants use computers (most standard go programs let you choose whatever board size you want - but note that for Tibetan Go, you also need a special starting position and the Tibetan ko rule, which most servers don't offer as a choice). You should go ask on the Life in 19x19 forums. If anyone knows where to buy such a thing, they will.
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mazout wrote:
but note that for Tibetan Go, you also need a special starting position and the Tibetan ko rule, which most servers don't offer as a choice).

If your computer supports 17x17, you could make the first 12 moves in the designated spots, and you could make sure to follow the Tibetan ko rule even though the computer doesn't enforce it. However the 17x17 board was formerly popular in all of China. It was usually used with the regular Chinese rules.
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Barticus88 wrote:
However the 17x17 board was formerly popular in all of China. It was usually used with the regular Chinese rules.


Hmm, not sure about this. Two archaeological digs have found 17x17 boards from thousands of years ago, is that what you mean? At that point go was undoubtedly played with stone-scoring rules rather than what we today call "Chinese" rules, which date from the Qing. At any rate, I doubt those boards are for sale!
 
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