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Andrew P.
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Are you allowed to "detach" from victims before they're rescued? Can you escort a victim out of the house, and leave him/her there to wait for an ambulance? If so, can you order the ambulance around to where they are and consider them rescued? We've been playing where you are allowed to do this since it seems to make sense thematically. Or does a firefighter need to be present on the same space as the victim when the ambulance arrives?

We've also been playing where firefighters can "pass" the victim if they're on the same space.

Also, can you close doors that lead to out of the house?
 
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pieforteeth wrote:
Are you allowed to "detach" from victims before they're rescued?

Yes.

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Can you escort a victim out of the house, and leave him/her there to wait for an ambulance?

Yes

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If so, can you order the ambulance around to where they are and consider them rescued?

Yes - the Ambulance crew will take care of them. EMTs are great.

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We've been playing where you are allowed to do this since it seems to make sense thematically.

And it's what the rules say is legal.

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Or does a firefighter need to be present on the same space as the victim when the ambulance arrives?

Rules don't say you have to, so you don't.

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We've also been playing where firefighters can "pass" the victim if they're on the same space.

If a victim is 'safe' and another is in danger, absolutely 'pass' the victim. Since the game rules can't tell one situation from the other, the firefighters are free to move around victims as needed. The only rules are when a firefighter is moving a victim or leading a healed victim out.

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Also, can you close doors that lead to out of the house?

Nope - no door marker to close.
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pieforteeth wrote:
Are you allowed to "detach" from victims before they're rescued? Can you escort a victim out of the house, and leave him/her there to wait for an ambulance? If so, can you order the ambulance around to where they are and consider them rescued? We've been playing where you are allowed to do this since it seems to make sense thematically. Or does a firefighter need to be present on the same space as the victim when the ambulance arrives?


It's called a delayed rescue and it's a good tactic to give you time to get the fire under control without risking new POIs.

pieforteeth wrote:
We've also been playing where firefighters can "pass" the victim if they're on the same space.


Yes. For example, the CAFS Firefighter passes the victim to the Rescue Specialist while all three tokens are in the same space. The player controlling the Rescue Specialist is next in turn order and escorts the victim further away from the threat (if any).

pieforteeth wrote:
Also, can you close doors that lead to out of the house?


There are no markers for this. I understand your logic but I personally wouldn't waste an AP to try this even if I had extra markers.
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Robman wrote:


pieforteeth wrote:
Also, can you close doors that lead to out of the house?


There are no markers for this. I understand your logic but I personally wouldn't waste an AP to try this even if I had extra markers.


it also could be a bad idea thematically as you'd be re-pressurizing the house almost ensuring a backdraft or explosion.
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Thanks for the replies and feedback!

It hasn't happened in one of our games, but it seems like closing an outside door could be useful in some very specific situations. Mayyyybe... If you only have one AP after moving outside, you're stuck in front of the door with the victim (since it takes 2 AP to move). You could shut the door, and in case fire spreads to the space on the other side of the door and an explosion occurs before the ambulance arrives (killing the victim *cry*) you'd be safe since the door would protect you. We've had some very unlucky rolls when spreading the fire, and man, it's probably hot standing there with the door open.
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Just thought I would mention, you do not need to "pass" victims. You can move with the victim then continue moving without them. There does not have to be another firefighter in the same space to pass them off to. See page 4 of the rule book, example 3.
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pass    {pas, pahs} Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to move past; go by: to pass another car on the road.
2. to let go without notice, action, remark, etc.; leave unconsidered; disregard; overlook: Pass chapter two and go on to chapter three.

. . .

16. to convey, transfer, or transmit; deliver (often followed by on ): Pass this memo on after reading it.
17. to convey from one person, hand, etc., to another: Please pass the salt.

Up 'til now, I believe that the definition being used was #1/#2

The above statement is correct that you do not need to 'pass' a victim to another firefighter, you can just dump 'em where you stand.
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