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Thomas DeSantis
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I like the idea behind Stratego, but I'm looking for a board game that uses the same type of layout, but better. I was thinking of buying "Commands and Colors Ancients" because it's a 2 player war game with simple mechanics.

Any suggestions?
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Hmmm... Commands and Colors Ancients is one of my favorite games and I would recommend it to anyone but not as an upgrade from Stratego. If you are not familiar with the rules of CC Ancients, do yourself a favor and check out the rules here before you buy it:

http://www.gmtgames.com/living_rules/CC_Rules_2009.pdf

I just don't want you to buy a game that is not what you are expecting it to be. It is relatively simple when compared to other wargames but it is significantly advanced compared to Stratego.

The games that Kelly mentioned above might be a better step up for you.

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+1 LOTR The Confrontation
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thomasdc3po wrote:
I like the idea behind Stratego, but I'm looking for a board game that uses the same type of layout, but better. I was thinking of buying "Commands and Colors Ancients" because it's a 2 player war game with simple mechanics.

Any suggestions?

C&C:Ancients is a great system, but if you're thinking of the hidden information aspect of Stratego, it's not there. Most block wargames do use hidden info, but the Commands & Colors family of games are an exception.

I agree with the posters above that LotR: the Confrontation is a superb game. It's Stratego roots are obvious, but it has subtle changes which have a big impact and provide a surprisingly successful thematic experience.
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I have another interesting game from the Stratego family that might be difficult to find, but I'll give you the link anyway in case you'd like to check it out: Senjutsu: Dynamic Samurai Combat.

There is also an excellent card game which often gets compared to Stratego: Hera and Zeus. It also might be hard to find these days.
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If you want a block wargame with fog of war, look at Napoleon's Triumph or Hammer of the Scots.

IF you want Stratego, get Confrontation.
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drunkenKOALA wrote:
If you want a block wargame with fog of war, look at Napoleon's Triumph or Hammer of the Scots.

I love Napoleon's Triumph, but hesitated to suggest it because it is far more difficult to learn than Stratego.
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+1 to LotR: the Confrontation, but Commands and Colors will be also a great choice
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For an easier block game to get into, check into Julius Caesar.
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Sphere wrote:
drunkenKOALA wrote:
If you want a block wargame with fog of war, look at Napoleon's Triumph or Hammer of the Scots.

I love Napoleon's Triumph, but hesitated to suggest it because it is far more difficult to learn than Stratego.


I should add more information to this thread. The most complex game I can play without a problem is Twilight Struggle, so that's my experience with game difficulty. Now that I think about it, I think the fog of war aspect is what I don't like about Stratego, which is why I'm looking for a "replacement". So Commands and Colors would do well in that category. I also don't like how all the soldiers are bunched up on top of each other, limiting movement of the pieces.

I looked up all the games listed in this thread, which I really appreciate, and I could understand how Confrontation is the best choice, but it's nearly $100.

Thanks for all of the help. Thank you.
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I forgot to mention I've played Twilight Struggle many times, so hopefully CC Ancients won't be too hard to learn. Also, I looked up the rules, and I like how you know the opponent's forces as well as your own, which makes the strategy more focused on maneuver that how to guess the other person's peaces correctly.

And thank you for the Geek Gold. Much appreciated!
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Some good starter games for the block system:
Napoleon: The Waterloo Campaign, 1815
War of 1812
Quebec 1759

If you like 'em you can move on to the heavier stuff.cool
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drunkenKOALA wrote:
If you want a block wargame with fog of war, look at Napoleon's Triumph or Hammer of the Scots.


Or Strike of the Eagle since it's the first game in a new series called Fog of War. The manual is short and comes with player aids as well so it should be rather easy to pick up.
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If you can handle TS, and don't want fog of war, then definitely CCA.
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+ 1 for Julius Caesar
 
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+1 Hera and Zeus: It is a cardgame with more luck than Stratego but faster and more funny (at least for us).
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If you have no problem with Twilight Struggle you will be just fine with Ancients. Get it if you can! You won't be disappointed!
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Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation (Deluxe Edition). Definitely. Plays like Stratego except that each player only gets 9 units, they can only move forwards (most of the time), each unit has a unique ability, and a combat card is played in battle to keep the strategy and tension level high. Short and sweet, and you will definitely want to play more than one game. Once you know how to play, you can easily fit 3 games into an hour's worth of playtime. Surprisingly good for a game that's short.

Someone on the geek (a reviewer I believe) said that it's like Stratego on steroids.

Edit: "Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation is Stratego on steroids (or, put another way, what Stratego Legends wished it could have been)." -- Josh Edwards
 
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