John Van Wagoner
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what do i need to make this also a 4 player game? (i want to be able to play with either 2 or 4)...i've read where i could simply buy 2 base games, but is that really the best way to go? (was hoping for maybe more variety??)...i'm willing to take the plunge with the base game and then add one other "item" to get this to a 4 player, and then (based on how well we like it) move on from there...but i'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction with my 1st purchase...thanks!
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You can test it out with the game as-is 4 player, it comes with 4 starter decks, you just need to record the Threat on a piece of paper. To try to build decks though, you'd at least want another base set.

I have everything made so far, and it's very satisfying for 2 players to build decks. I'll be finding out this weekend if a complete set works just as well 4 player.

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I think you will need two base sets in order to have enough cards to build 4 decks.

I also think you might need a few expansions. I would suggest getting one of each from the Mirkwood cycle.
 
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so, 2 base sets to start with 4 players...does the base set come with 2 "starter decks", or 4 (do you know)? if it comes with 4, and i have 2 base sets is that to give each of the 4 players more to choose from in constructing their decks? and...should i go with 2 base sets, do i then need more than 1 when adding and expansion, or am i now locked-in to having to get 2 of each expansion (to account for the 2 base games i'm starting with)? thanks
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I think you will need two base sets in order to have enough cards to build 4 decks.

I also think you might need a few expansions. I would suggest getting one of each from the Mirkwood cycle.
 
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That really depends on how you want to build your decks.

If for a 4 player game, you are building 4 single-sphere decks, you are absolutely fine with a single set (though you need something to use as threat counter for players #3 and #4; like a couple d10 or a piece of paper, or a calculator; well two of those). You might run out of counters, but there should be no problem finding suitable replacements.

If, however, you want to build mixed-sphere decks for all players, you might want some cards more often than they are available.

Either way, I think before buying a 2nd Core Set, I would go with some of the expansion packs and then see how it goes. You can always buy another Core Set later, if you feel it is necessary.

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The Base Set comes with 4 Starter Sets, one of each sphere. I've played the base set with 4 players, it plays fine. Might get a little boring after a couple plays (the starter decks are small, 20 or so cards) and so you'll want to get into the Deck Building side of the game. One base set would be difficult to Deck Build for 4 players, you'd want 2 base sets and probably a few expansions.

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John_VW wrote:
so, 2 base sets to start with 4 players...


See above. It is not absolutely necessary.

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does the base set come with 2 "starter decks", or 4 (do you know)?


It comes with 4 decks (one of each sphere; leadership, tactics, spirit, and lore). Each of the decks have 29 cards (plus one Gandalf card making it 30; there are 4 of those in the Core Set).

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if it comes with 4, and i have 2 base sets is that to give each of the 4 players more to choose from in constructing their decks?


Yes, you will have more options, because in the 4 pre-constructed decks there are cards in multiples of 1, 2, and 3. When building your own decks, you can use any card as often as 3 times. So, having 2 Core Sets allows you to play the cards that are only once or twice in a single set more often (2 or 3, respectively). Or you could use the same cards in multiple decks (if you build decks with overlapping spheres).

The expansion sets, giving you all-new cards (and three copies of each of those), give you more options for deckbuilding, though.

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and...should i go with 2 base sets, do i then need more than 1 when adding and expansion, or am i now locked-in to having to get 2 of each expansion (to account for the 2 base games i'm starting with)?


Absolutely not. There are some expansions (The Watcher in the Water comes to mind -> Resourceful), which have very useful "neutral" cards (which can be used with any sphere). Those might be interesting to have more than 3 times when building 4 decks. But other than that having each expansion once should be perfectly fine.

As said above, having a single Core Set and a bunch of the expansion packs should work well with four players (just need something to use for the two additional threat counters and some extra tokens). You could then build single-sphere decks when playing with four and try out some mixed-sphere strategies when playing with two.

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