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Björn Hansson
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Hi all!

I am posting this in the forum of all OCS games to involve everyone. You only have to vote in one place (it's the same collective poll).

I am not about to design a game of my own (not right now anyway), but I hope that the result of this poll might serve as an inspiration to all game designers out there.

I have limited the suggestion to the time period that OCS was designed for (1900-1950). Feel free to discuss & comment on the titles and suggest new ones that I didn't think of.


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How does these imaginary OCS titles sound to you?
  Great! Why hasn't it been done already? I think this could become a good game. Not sure, I would need to be convinced. No. Definitely not. Go to bed!
OCS: Northern Finland. A map stretching from northern Norway/Sweden all the way to Murmansk.
OCS: The Channel. A map of both the English and French channel coast. Could simulate both Overlord and Sea Lion.
OCS: Manchuria 1945. Soviet invasion of the Japanese puppet state.
OCS: West Front 1944. All the way from Overlord to Berlin.
OCS: Army Group North. Leningrad & the Fins.
OCS: Bagration. Perhaps linking with Baltic Gap
OCS: Poland 1939.
OCS: Eastern Africa. 1935-1941
OCS: China 1937. Second Sino-Japanese war.
OCS: Japan 1945. "What if" game. US invasion of Japan.
OCS: WW1 Western Front. Lots of trenches and artillery.
OCS: WW1 Eastern Front. A real monster. Open mobile warfare.
OCS: WW1 Middle East. Mountains, camels and a guy called Lawrence.
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Not sure on your proposals, although the west front 1944 is currently under development and it is called Beyond the Rhine.

Why nothing on the SCW? I think that a few months of the whole war (even the whole war?) could be modelled with the OCS system.
 
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abendoso wrote:
Not sure on your proposals,


That's why we're discussing them.

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the west front 1944 is currently under development and it is called Beyond the Rhine.


True. I completely forgot about that one. But it doesn't cover everything from the Normandy landings or does it?

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Why nothing on the SCW? I think that a few months of the whole war (even the whole war?) could be modelled with the OCS system.


There you go. I missed something. Good suggestion.
 
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I think Bagration is under consideration and wasn't AGN dropped?

Other suggestion: Germans in Roumania in 1916
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sims1009 wrote:
I think Bagration is under consideration


Sweet. And welcome to Boardgamegeek!

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and wasn't AGN dropped?


Then maybe someone should pick it up? (Though I'm not too keen on that particular game. Mostly wood, marshes and a heavily fortified city).

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Other suggestion: Germans in Roumania in 1916


Absolutely. Good idea!

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I don't know the OCS system, but would the First Arab-Israeli War work well?
 
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charlesf wrote:
I don't know the OCS system, but would the First Arab-Israeli War work well?


The one in 1948? I didn't include it as I felt it was too small, but I could be wrong.
 
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taragalinas wrote:
charlesf wrote:
I don't know the OCS system, but would the First Arab-Israeli War work well?


The one in 1948? I didn't include it as I felt it was too small, but I could be wrong.


Too small? No way.

Could actually be a fairly simple entry into the series as it was mainly an infantry war. Naval and air elements pretty neglibible. Armour fairly minor.
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Juha Metsäkallas
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Some comments...

Northern Finland
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I assume you're refering to campaigns in Kiestinki and Kalastajasaarento. The former was a German trek in deep forests where they got lost and where salvaged by Finns. The later was a German trek on tundra where they got bogged down by mud and stiff Soviet resistance. I doubt there is much gaming in either campaign but I'm listening.

Manchuria
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There was a discussion on OCS forum in CW about Manchuria where the concensus was that there is not much gaming in this. It's more a logistic execise for Soviets to overrun an area size of France within a week. Or would this be a solitaire game? That might work.

Second Sino-Japanese
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Absolutely, positively. Where can order it?

 
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Metsis wrote:
Some comments...

Northern Finland
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I assume you're refering to campaigns in Kiestinki and Kalastajasaarento. The former was a German trek in deep forests where they got lost and where salvaged by Finns. The later was a German trek on tundra where they got bogged down by mud and stiff Soviet resistance. I doubt there is much gaming in either campaign but I'm listening.


You have the Soviet Petsamo-Kirkenes or "Tenth shock" offensive in october 1944 and the German operation Silver Fox in 1941. Of course there's not too much going on in between, but not every game must have a grand campaign.
 
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I must say, I was expecting to see more love for the eastern front of WW1.
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taragalinas wrote:
I must say, I was expecting to see more love for the eastern front of WW1.


I am working on designs for WW I east and west front for OCS

I have been working on the maps for Bagration for the designer of that game.

Operation Exporter is in the works.

There is also a design for a game on Hungary that is in playtest.

A one map game on Smolensk is in the works as well.

There is also Italy

There is also Malaya

And a game on E Prussia to Berlin that has been talked about.

So lots of ideas and projects in the works.

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hkishel wrote:
taragalinas wrote:
I must say, I was expecting to see more love for the eastern front of WW1.


I am working on designs for WW I east and west front for OCS

I have been working on the maps for Bagration for the designer of that game.

Operation Exporter is in the works.

There is also a design for a game on Hungary that is in playtest.

A one map game on Smolensk is in the works as well.

There is also Italy

There is also Malaya

And a game on E Prussia to Berlin that has been talked about.

So lots of ideas and projects in the works.



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Yes, I was referring to the early battles, Silberfuchs (Silver Fox) and its three phases. Renntier was an initial, uneventful mars to jump-off positions in Liinahamari and Luostari (then part of Finland). Platinfuchs, launched from these positions was a complete failure as I wrote (Kalastajasaarento is the Finnish name for полуостров Рыбачий, Fiskerhalvøya or Rybachy Peninsula).

Polarfuchs was the southern push where the Germans took Salla after the Soviets had withdrawn but further pushes to take Kairala or Alakurtti failed. The Finns took Kiestinki but further advance to east bogged down (I mixed the sectors in my previous posting). After that practically nothing happened until Petsamo-Kirkenes Offensive.

Given the number of units involved, I think the division scale won't work but you have to have smaller units.
 
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And a Burma Expansion Project (battles in North Burma after Imphal & Kohima) has been hibernating snore
 
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Björn,

Is this the place to follow the debate? you created various threads and I am not sure were to follow?

I think what the system needs is Reluctant Enemies. A small game to serve as introduction with some naval and amphibious landings and not too many units. This will certainly bring new blood into the system.

Also, the whole SCW trying to strech the system would be really nice (for me at least)
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abendoso wrote:
Björn,

Is this the place to follow the debate? you created various threads and I am not sure were to follow?


Me neither. Perhaps I should have said "if you want to comment only do it in game X's forum". I reckon I'll just have to sum up all the debates after a while. Sorry about the inconvenience.
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...but, yes, this is the place where most comments are made. (The link on CSW goes to this particular place).
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