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I want a nice box to store my cube. I haven't bought a magic product in a long time, nor have I been in a MTG store, so I don't know what's up.

I'm talking about these: [geekurl=http://sales.starcitygames.com//spoiler/display.php?name=Card+Box&namematch=EXACT&text=&oracle=1&textmatch=AND&flavor=&flavormatch=EXACT&action=Show+Results&s_all=All&format=&c_all=All&multicolor=&colormatch=OR&ccl=0&ccu=99&t_all=All&z]starcitygames[/geekurl].

Do they have a seperate lid? I don't want a fold box.
And how many sleeved cards do they approximately hold?

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ps: my right collarbone is broken. Pardon me if I use fewer words to explain things than I'd normally do.
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They do have a separate lid, but I'm not sure how many sleeved cards they hold.
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I use fat pack boxes to hold my cube and I can get about 250 sleeved cards (Ultra Pro's) in each one.

Obviously if you want to use thicker sleeves you'd get fewer cards in each box.
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They hold over three hundred sleeved cards. I have three commander decks in one, with room to spare!

Be careful with the lids, though. They have a tendency to bend a card on the end.
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scifiantihero wrote:
Be careful with the lids, though. They have a tendency to bend a card on the end.
This.
The first fat-pack I bought back in the day, I opened the cards & stored them in the fat-pack box, then when I opened it back up I noticed the first white card (some white-weenie) was mauled from the stupid top insert they use to achieve box height. Thankfully the card wasn't anything rare or wonderful, but I was still chuffed at the bad box design.

Now the Deckbuilder's Toolkit boxes? Those are nice.


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I LOVE the deckbuilder toolkit boxes. You can store 4-5 decks comfortably and I am also able to use "toploaders" as deck seperators. I then slide a trimmed index card into the toploader with the deck name and any cards that I need for sideboard/replacement in case I use copies of a card in multiple decks.
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scifiantihero wrote:
They hold over three hundred sleeved cards. I have three commander decks in one, with room to spare!

Be careful with the lids, though. They have a tendency to bend a card on the end.


I can vouch for this. I had a couple sleeves get bent, but no cards yet. I hold 3 commander decks in mine and you can fit 5 regular decks in it.

The deckbuilder kits also hold the same and are cheaper (at least here in the US) than the fat packs.
 
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How many sleeved cards can be stored in a Deckbuilder's Toolkit box?
 
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Bobloblah wrote:
How many sleeved cards can be stored in a Deckbuilder's Toolkit box?


I usually fit 4-5 sleeved decks with sleeved sideboards, though 5 can get tight if you have dividers and tokens in the mix. 4 safely for sure though. They are basically the same size as a "white box" courrugated storage box that would fit 500 or so unsleeved cards.
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60-card decks with 15-card sideboards?
 
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Bobloblah wrote:
60-card decks with 15-card sideboards?


Yes. If you like, I can post pictures tonight when I get home from work. Otherwise, here is a link to a blog of someone opening one with pics:
http://negativedoubleinfinity.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/deck-...
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Sure! I didn't see any pictures at that link that really showed the box interior or contents still in it. Thanks in advance!
 
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I fit five 60 card decks in deckbuilder kits with thick dividers in between, so 4 decks with sideboards should fit.
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Fat Packs suck for holding cards it is a really bad design. Not only do they wreck cards as mentioned above, but they HAVE to be held from the bottom. if you grab the top (which you will at some point) they bottom falls out and the cards fall on the ground. THE ONLY thing they have going for them is cool graphics.

Why are you opposed to a fold top box? They hold everything you need (various sizes) and have none of the above mentioned problems and they are cheap.

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Syvanis wrote:
Why are you opposed to a fold top box? They hold everything you need (various sizes) and have none of the above mentioned problems and they are cheap.

Are you talking to me?
DUDE...Cubing is a disease! PIMP THE CUBE (which includes the box)!
 
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I was talking to the OP since he said he didn't like those. I am an artist so I just draw on mine. But there is plenty of art out there that you can put on a fold box or you can buy them with good art.
 
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Here you go! It's 4 decks sleeved and sideboard, with room for some dice and tokens... or five decks without SB or extras... All 4 of these decks are 60 + 15, the one of the right looks like a bigger deck because it's kind of "fallen" forward a bit into the empty space. Otherwise the empty space is about an inch.
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That doesnt look like a fat pack? is it new?
 
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Syvanis wrote:
That doesnt look like a fat pack? is it new?


No, it's a "Deckbuilders Tool Kit." See the link above.
 
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I have a pretty big cube which I keep in here: http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_supplies.php?fpid=Acc-UPCol...

It fits something like 800-900 sleeved cards, so I keep my lands in it as well. I had the same box with a different design for the longest time, but I finally switched to this one so I could buy the matching sleeves. Makes it very ascetically pleasing
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The Deck builders looks like a much better solution. Glad to see Wizards is putting out something decent.

But honestly I'll still go with the fold into itself box. I have dropped them before and they always hold. I don't want to risk something that might pop open.

When I was first getting really into Magic I had a crappy box for holding my cards and my girlfriend at the time decided to pull them out of the trunk, in the winter, by a snow bank.

It fell open and a Mox Jet, Mox Emerald and a Timetwister along with 800 other cards fell into the snow. I spent the rest of the night desleeving cleaning and resleeving all of those cards.

The Power nine were not harmed. A few other cards got wrecked but it was under $20 in damage. Something that totally protects the cards is going to be better than anything that "just" looks cool.
 
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Syvanis wrote:
The Deck builders looks like a much better solution. Glad to see Wizards is putting out something decent.

But honestly I'll still go with the fold into itself box. I have dropped them before and they always hold. I don't want to risk something that might pop open.

When I was first getting really into Magic I had a crappy box for holding my cards and my girlfriend at the time decided to pull them out of the trunk, in the winter, by a snow bank.

It fell open and a Mox Jet, Mox Emerald and a Timetwister along with 800 other cards fell into the snow. I spent the rest of the night desleeving cleaning and resleeving all of those cards.

The Power nine were not harmed. A few other cards got wrecked but it was under $20 in damage. Something that totally protects the cards is going to be better than anything that "just" looks cool.


Double sleeving ftw!
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Syvanis wrote:
Fat Packs suck for holding cards it is a really bad design. Not only do they wreck cards as mentioned above, but they HAVE to be held from the bottom. if you grab the top (which you will at some point) they bottom falls out and the cards fall on the ground. THE ONLY thing they have going for them is cool graphics.

Why are you opposed to a fold top box? They hold everything you need (various sizes) and have none of the above mentioned problems and they are cheap.


The following points are important to me (from very important to regular important)

1: Cool Graphics (preferably something generic, like mana symbols)
2: Holds enough cards (between 400-500)
3: Can serve a purpose during cubing (for instance, I could use the lid to store sideboards during drafting)
4: Is durable and sturdy, and will show minimal wear when transporting in a backpack. I'm also afraid that foldable boxes will show wear/damage after a while at the fold-crease. I really like the sturdy look of fatpack boxes, and foldables look less sturdy to me.

What is not important to me:

1: The lid-bottom falling issue (I puy a rubber band around everything)
2: Price (but it still must be reasonable)


But, a box like this can change my mind :
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I have a pretty big cube which I keep in here: http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_supplies.php?fpid=Acc-UPCol...



What's this about damaging/bending cards? I'm always really neat about putting away and storing cards? Is the box really too small, or is it designed to tightly hug the cards?


Thanks all! I didn't expect all these reactions, you guys are really helpfull.
 
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Geert Vinaskov wrote:
Syvanis wrote:
Fat Packs suck for holding cards it is a really bad design. Not only do they wreck cards as mentioned above, but they HAVE to be held from the bottom. if you grab the top (which you will at some point) they bottom falls out and the cards fall on the ground. THE ONLY thing they have going for them is cool graphics.

Why are you opposed to a fold top box? They hold everything you need (various sizes) and have none of the above mentioned problems and they are cheap.


The following points are important to me (from very important to regular important)

1: Cool Graphics (preferably something generic, like mana symbols)
2: Holds enough cards (between 400-500)
3: Can serve a purpose during cubing (for instance, I could use the lid to store sideboards during drafting)
4: Is durable and sturdy, and will show minimal wear when transporting in a backpack. I'm also afraid that foldable boxes will show wear/damage after a while at the fold-crease. I really like the sturdy look of fatpack boxes, and foldables look less sturdy to me.

What is not important to me:

1: The lid-bottom falling issue (I puy a rubber band around everything)
2: Price (but it still must be reasonable)


But, a box like this can change my mind :
ragudaddy wrote:
I have a pretty big cube which I keep in here: http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_supplies.php?fpid=Acc-UPCol...



What's this about damaging/bending cards? I'm always really neat about putting away and storing cards? Is the box really too small, or is it designed to tightly hug the cards?


Thanks all! I didn't expect all these reactions, you guys are really helpfull.


Folding cardboard boxes are very sturdy. They might get worn over time, but they hold together. My brother probably has the same ratty box I gave him twelve years ago.

The fatpack boxes have a lip at the top on the inside. It will catch a card sometimes and squish it down. Sometimes even when you're careful.
 
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I have extra empty deckbuilder boxes if anyone wants them. I have both of the first and second series (none of the current 2013 version.)
 
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