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Hi All, been browsing the site a lot recently but this is my first post here.

I was just wondering what your thoughts should be for my next gaming purchase? First of all, a little background....

So I'm relatively new to the hobby. In fact, here in the UK, I would go as far as to say that not many people know that board gaming is a hobby (Brits' imaginations in this area don't really extend beyond Monopoly, Risk, Scrabble and other games of that ilk). So it's been a bit of an uphill struggle but over the past few months I've been able to persuade a couple of groups of my friends to start playing some new games with me.

One of these groups prefers lighter games - there's normally about 4-6 of us and we play a lot of Carcassone and 7 Wonders (Catan didn't really take off). They would turn their noses up at more complex thematic games.

The other group however, didn't really enjoy those lighter games that much. Rather, as big fans of both shows (and the books in the latter case), we play a lot of BSG and Game of Thrones. We like thematic strategic games of conquest and/or survival.

As I'm the one supplying the games, I'm wondering which game you guys recommend I should purchase next for each group? My thoughts are...

Group 1: No idea! Need a fun game that can be played in about an hour that is easy to teach. Ticket to Ride is obvs a contender but I've played it before on iOS and actually....don't enjoy it all that much. Sorry. Citadels a good bet?

Group 2: I'm really tempted by Arkham Horror because it looks amazing, but I don't think even this group would have the patience to learn the rules (Game of Thrones took me an hour to explain and a couple of games for all of us to grasp completely). I really want Shogun as we would love the theme but it's out of print here in the UK. Also, personally I would love something like Descent or another fantasy dungeon crawler, but some of my friends aren't quite geeky enough to play something that verges on D&D (no offense to anyone who does play D&D - but that stereo type does exist amongst my friendship group).

My thanks if you bothered to read all that - would appreciate any of your thoughts!
 
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Dont buy games for your group, buy what you want to play. Otherwise you will spend twice the money on games that get half the play.

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ticket to ride for the first group definatly. When you say IOS were you playing against others in the room? I honestly have yet to show this game to someone and have them not enjoy it.

Liars dice is another one I cannot reccomend enough, its light but very addictive and again Ive yet to introduce it to anyone who didnt want to play again and again and again...

Survive escape from atlantis is light but brings about a great amount of interaction and its always great screwing other people over by sinking their boat and then having someone eat them with a shark.

As for Heavier games:

Arkham horror is currently my favourite game, and I honestly dont think the rules are that hard, its just there is a lot you can do in the game so with an overview of the basics you could potentially (to some extent) teach as you play, explaining situations as they arise. When I have taught the game I have always cut out the ancient one phase, if it awakens the game is over, simplifies the game so there is not as much to take in, yet doesnt ruin the experience.

maybe its a bit too similar, but maybe Rex is worth checking out if you like game of thrones? its definatly shorter but I dont know if its differnt enough to justify buying it at this time.

If your group are against the D+D fantasy style have you considered looking into games such as gears of war, for a kinda dungeon crawl fix?

hopefully you can find some use in my suggestions x
 
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I can think of loads, but for now:

Group 1: Alhambra

Group 2: Eclipse
 
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The thing about playing games on iOS is that they're not much of an event. Getting together with people to play an actual physical game is much more of an event, as it's also about socialising and sharing. TTR on iOS is a light filler, that is moderately enjoyable although I can't remember any of the games I've played. On the other hand I remember almost all the face to face games of TTR I've played. TTR has a lot more going for it face to face than it may at first seem, so if I was you'd I seriously consider it for group 1.
 
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You could search the forums and geeklists for the term "gateway." Gateway games often appeal to both mainstream players and gamers.

How about finding a group with experienced gamers who bring their own games? Then you could try a game before buying your own copy. Look at the Guilds section here and in the Games section on Meetup.com. Or go to a game convention that features board and card games. After you find games you like, you can play them with your two friends' groups.
 
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For both groups:

Kingsburg 2-5
 
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Thanks for the recommendations guys. Have looked into your suggestions and they've definitely given me some food for thought.

TTR seems like it would be worth the purchase if it works better in a proper board gaming environment. Will give that a shot at some point. Although Alhambra does look interesting, TTR will probably be a safer bet.

I'm not really a massive fan of worker placement games, but Kingsburg does look really interesting and like you say, Liam Liam, might work for both groups.

Just watched thedicetower's review of Rex. Man, does that game look fun! Will definitely give it a go and it might be next on my list for Group 2.

Eclipse looks too economical for us. Too euro-ey for me.
 
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Rydonith wrote:
Eclipse looks too economical for us. Too euro-ey for me.


I'm a total AT gamer and I love Eclipse. The Euro elements are there for sure, but they really don't get in the way at all.
 
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Group 1: Stone Age or something meatier Age of Empires 3

Group 2: Eclipse

Good luck!
 
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Group 1 - Finca. Eminent Domain. Tobago. King of Tokyo.
Group 2 - Space Alert. Ghost Stories. Or Twilight Imperium (Third Edition) if you want to be serious.

As a dungeon crawler I love Claustrophobia, but it's for 2 players. Earth Reborn might fit better with the number of players.
 
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Rydonith wrote:
Hi All, been browsing the site a lot recently but this is my first post here.

I was just wondering what your thoughts should be for my next gaming purchase? First of all, a little background....

So I'm relatively new to the hobby. In fact, here in the UK, I would go as far as to say that not many people know that board gaming is a hobby (Brits' imaginations in this area don't really extend beyond Monopoly, Risk, Scrabble and other games of that ilk). So it's been a bit of an uphill struggle but over the past few months I've been able to persuade a couple of groups of my friends to start playing some new games with me.

One of these groups prefers lighter games - there's normally about 4-6 of us and we play a lot of Carcassone and 7 Wonders (Catan didn't really take off). They would turn their noses up at more complex thematic games.

The other group however, didn't really enjoy those lighter games that much. Rather, as big fans of both shows (and the books in the latter case), we play a lot of BSG and Game of Thrones. We like thematic strategic games of conquest and/or survival.

As I'm the one supplying the games, I'm wondering which game you guys recommend I should purchase next for each group? My thoughts are...

Group 1: No idea! Need a fun game that can be played in about an hour that is easy to teach. Ticket to Ride is obvs a contender but I've played it before on iOS and actually....don't enjoy it all that much. Sorry. Citadels a good bet?

Group 2: I'm really tempted by Arkham Horror because it looks amazing, but I don't think even this group would have the patience to learn the rules (Game of Thrones took me an hour to explain and a couple of games for all of us to grasp completely). I really want Shogun as we would love the theme but it's out of print here in the UK. Also, personally I would love something like Descent or another fantasy dungeon crawler, but some of my friends aren't quite geeky enough to play something that verges on D&D (no offense to anyone who does play D&D - but that stereo type does exist amongst my friendship group).

My thanks if you bothered to read all that - would appreciate any of your thoughts!


Group 1
Citadels and TTR would be good. Check out these too:
Guillotine
Bang!
Dominion
The Adventurers
Incan Gold
Quarriors

Pushing the envelop: Small World & Power Grid

Group 2
Arkham Horror is currently my favorite game and would suite this group. Introduce the rules as suggested above. Check out these too:
Cyclades
Cosmic Encounter
Dungeon Lords
Ghost Stories
La Citta
Wallenstein - Same mechanics as Shogun, different theme.

Hope this helps instead of overwelms!
 
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I'd also recommend Kingsburg for group 1 but also Stone Age. I like it a smidge better, it seems there's just a bit more decision making to do. Plus you can introduce that group to the concept of "feeding your people," a mechanic several heavier games use. (Like Agricola)

For group 2 there is Shadows over Camelot. It's like BSG in that it's cooperative with a traitor mechanic. But in SoC there may or may not be a traitor, so you don't even know if your paranoia is justified!



 
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Rydonith wrote:


Just watched thedicetower's review of Rex. Man, does that game look fun! Will definitely give it a go and it might be next on my list for Group 2.




Rex would be an excellent choice for your second group. Lots of theme and lots of variable powers and lots of negotiating. It's right up your alley. Another one to consider would be Cosmic Encounter.

For your first group, I'll second Liar's Dice and Ticket to Ride.
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If you are not convinced on Ticket to Ride, then maybe something like Airlines Europe might be worth a look at.
 
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Group 1: Zooloretto, King of Tokyo +1, Survive +1
 
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