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killy9999
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Hi all. I'm thinking about buying DS. However, there is one thing bothers me. I will be mostly playing 2 or 3 player games. I skimmed the rules and noticed that in such games each player controls multiple animals. I don't like it when the game is scaled to smaller number of players in such fashion. Does it make sense to play DS with 2 or 3 players if each is controlling only one animal (thus only 2 or 3 animals on the board)?
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killy9999 wrote:
Hi all. I'm thinking about buying DS. However, there is one thing bothers me. I will be mostly playing 2 or 3 player games. I skimmed the rules and noticed that in such games each player controls multiple animals. I don't like it when the game is scaled to smaller number of players in such fashion. Does it make sense to play DS with 2 or 3 players if each is controlling only one animal (thus only 2 or 3 animals on the board)?


Also my question on this game
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Played it with three lots of times. Completely enjoyable. Liked it even more then 4-ppl game.
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freddieyu wrote:
killy9999 wrote:
Hi all. I'm thinking about buying DS. However, there is one thing bothers me. I will be mostly playing 2 or 3 player games. I skimmed the rules and noticed that in such games each player controls multiple animals. I don't like it when the game is scaled to smaller number of players in such fashion. Does it make sense to play DS with 2 or 3 players if each is controlling only one animal (thus only 2 or 3 animals on the board)?


Also my question on this game


I too would be interested in this information!!!

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Playing with multiple animals is the OPTIONAL way. The normal way is to just play with one animal. And the game is just done that way.
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I've played a few times 2-player with a single animal. Plays great and VERY strategic.
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skyzero wrote:
I've played a few times 2-player with a single animal. Plays great and VERY strategic.


how long did your 2P games take? 2 hours?
 
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freddieyu wrote:
skyzero wrote:
I've played a few times 2-player with a single animal. Plays great and VERY strategic.


how long did your 2P games take? 2 hours?


Yeah about 2 hours for 2 players with one animal each, I'd say.
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We played with 3 players 3 times and at the end of each one, someone had a problem with Kingmaking.

P.S I love this game.
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freddieyu wrote:
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I've played a few times 2-player with a single animal. Plays great and VERY strategic.


how long did your 2P games take? 2 hours?


Teaching game will run about 3 and once everyone knows what they're doing, it'll take anywhere from 2-2.5 hrs. If you use the variant of removing the cards that provide additional action pawns, it'll run under 2 hours every time.
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I have only played with three (and one animal) and works very well that way.
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I have only played with three (and one animal) and works very well that way.


Was it a dolphin? I hear they're very smart. Did he do well?
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I'll just join the chorus here; the game plays beautifully with three players, one animal each.
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Op, that's the optional rules.

It works fine as one player one animal. The only issue with 3 player can be kingmaking so avoid playing with loved up couples who tend to help each other in games. That's not a fault of the game as such but people do generally need to play for themselves and not others.

I often do 2 player one animal. We do it in about an hour or so and it's great fun. 3 or 4 player is just as good and that takes 2-3 hours.
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'loved up couples'...

That made me giggle.

May I steal this expression from you? Would royalties be involved?
 
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'loved up couples'...

That made me giggle.

May I steal this expression from you? Would royalties be involved?


Sure you can at the cheap price of playing Catastrophe on someone else
 
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arkayn wrote:
bop517 wrote:
I have only played with three (and one animal) and works very well that way.


Was it a dolphin? I hear they're very smart. Did he do well?
You're better of playing with a crow of some sort. They are better at handling the pieces.
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have only played this 2 player since it came out,and its one of my favourite games - as said we play with one animal each and it takes about 90mins per game..rarely goes over that time
 
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Didn't enjoy three player game at all. Six Action Pawns for each player, possible huge differences in score, a lot of free spaces to choose from, weird... I prefer it with the full capacity of six players, total chaos, and precious AP placing all the time.
 
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Didn't enjoy three player game at all. Six Action Pawns for each player, possible huge differences in score, a lot of free spaces to choose from, weird... I prefer it with the full capacity of six players, total chaos, and precious AP placing all the time.


Yes, this game varies a lot depending on the number of players. I've found they all work well but I suspect most people will have a preference. I like 4 player best but 2 and 3 player are good too. However for our 3 player we really do help just ourselves which ensures it is still balanced. It is too easy to dogpile onto the third but once that's apparent it is efficient to do it only as much as is needed. Overkilling is wasted actions. That takes practise to judge right I think.

I found 5 and 6 player too chaotic for my tastes. However it was which some new players which reduced the strategic and tactical play quite a lot I think. I suspect with an experienced group it would be good.
 
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arkayn wrote:
bop517 wrote:
I have only played with three (and one animal) and works very well that way.


Was it a dolphin? I hear they're very smart. Did he do well?




He couldn't help to jump out of the water every time he saw a clever move. Annoying.
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It's really a great game at 3 players with one animal each, but don't be frightened to try the multiple animal rule, it adds alot of complexity. Especially since only the lowest final score between your two animals counts. Forces you to balance the two animals instead of using one as a buffer for the other.
 
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The only number I'm a little wary of playing with is 5 - the two players next to the gap have a slight advantage in having less direct competition. With 2, 3, 4 or 6 players, everyone can (with suitable choices of animal) have the same number of neighbours (with 3 or 4 players, only some arrangements do this).

I'm not sure how far experience works to modify this.
 
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Late to the party, but after playing the last few games as a 2 player match, I am very satisfied. Iv'e only played 2 and 3 player matches. And I actually prefer 2 player. You don't want to be leading in a 3 player match. (at least in my group). So if you are on the fence about purchasing DS, I say take the plunge.
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Thanks. I already bought the game and played only 2 and 3 player games so far. I'm very happy with scaling. I think I wouldn't play this with 5 and 6 players - might be too chaotic.
 
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