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Subject: Wait, it's over already (That's what she said) rss

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Randy Snyder
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So after setting up all the terrain, putting out the units, and and swapping in the specialist, it was over in a flash.

How long does setup take for you experienced people, and how long do games last? This was our first CtA game, but were very familiar with memoir 44. The setup took forever, and the game took barely any time.
 
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just got the game and haven't played yet, but love the title
 
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Sometimes, it is like that. Depends on how aggressively you play. Swapping sides and repeating the scenario is quick if you set aside the units that were killed instead of putting them in the box.
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Thamos von Nostria wrote:
Sometimes, it is like that. Depends on how aggressively you play. Swapping sides and repeating the scenario is quick if you set aside the units that were killed instead of putting them in the box.

This.

Plus, the more you play any Command & Colors games you find yourself using movement cards to slowly units into position so that, at game's end, you don't have 1/2 your army on the baseline having never contributed. Some contests are indeed decided by rushing in decided in a handful of quick skirimishes...but I think you find that the more you play the more patient you'll become with moving and battling with your forces.
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When playing BL with face to face (as opposed to Vassal) I plan on leaving the whole set out on the table for quite a while and get as many games possible in before packing it all away again.

We'll have games that go as fast as you mention and some that take a few sittings to finish. It is a monster to set up sometimes but less of one if everything is out there already.

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1) So why didn't you play again then?

2) I find that good strategies in this game are very deliberate and take time and patience, so my games are never short. Was each opponent just throwing units at each other? Did you bother grouping your units to make (and keep) them bold?
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randusnuder wrote:


How long does setup take for you experienced people, and how long do games last? This was our first CtA game, but were very familiar with memoir 44. The setup took forever, and the game took barely any time.


Call to Arms setup does take quite a bit longer than just setting up one of the game's pre-set adventures. The setup in CtA is part of the game itself, though I certainly understand not enjoying that part.

Lots of mounted units combined with an early mounted charge play against ill-prepared lines can lead to quick games, but in general, the low hit rates in BL (compared to C&C:Ancients and Memoir '44) lead to longer games. Not sure how many banners you played to, but I would suggest playing CtA games to seven.

Another suggestion, if you have the materials for the Epic version of the game, the setup isn't all that much longer, but the game play will be - typically another 30-60 minutes, depending on ones play style. Most single board games are around 45 minutes to an hour.

Hope you have as much fun with this game as I do

EDIT: I didn't really answer the question - I usually play on Vassal, so setup time is nil to 5 minutes for CtA, but on those rare occasions I do get a face to face game in, CtA setup usually is about 20 minutes, chatting included.
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yes, set-up does take some time, and you need to account for that. This is a bit more like a miniatures game than a boardgame.

Overall, you're going to need to allocate more time for this game than just the play time.

If you use a storage solution where the units are kept together, such as a Plano box, then set-up is much faster.
 
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Thanks for the replies, everyone.

We were playing this as our end-of-the-night game, so when we finished, it was time to go home. I'll keep in mind that we should plan on playing more than one game.

I like the idea of doing an epic battle, and will take that into consideration going forward.

I am sure part of the issue was picking out specialists, since we both had to look through all of them to pick the ones we wanted. This was also a bit of a practice run so that we could trick convince a couple of others to play a game that is a little bigger, and it sounds like, a little longer.

Are there any preprinted map packs anywhere? That would help speed up the process at least a little bit.

Thanks for the input, everyone! I'll put up a report next time we get to play.
 
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randusnuder wrote:


Are there any preprinted map packs anywhere? That would help speed up the process at least a little bit.



One: Troll and Country (only two total Adventures, one on each side)

For a variety of reasons, it didn't go over well and ended up triggering the deal between Days of Wonder and Fantasy Flight Games to sell BattleLore.

I thought it was a wonderful idea and wish there would've been more, a la Memoir '44.
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