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A Hungarian neo-Nazi leader has had to retire from professional antisemitism because he discovered he was Jewish.
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Whoops. Seems like kind of a big thing to miss.
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Thats Irony for you.
 
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Thats Irony for you.


Irony, Irony, or Alanis Morissette Irony?
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The Stern gang (ultra-revisionists in Palestine in the 40s) viewed the British as the main enemy and tried to ally with the Nazis, iirc.

Pretty gaga. But hey, extremists often do live in a warped reality.
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bobby_5150 wrote:
he seems like a real dick......however, if I had a similar ancestor I'd not consider myself Jewish. It'd be my decision...not someone else's.
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BlueMountain wrote:
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he seems like a real dick......however, if I had a similar ancestor I'd not consider myself Jewish. It'd be my decision...not someone else's.


It speaks well of you that you don't seem to understand how antisemitic racists think.
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bobby_5150 wrote:
he seems like a real dick......however, if I had a similar ancestor I'd not consider myself Jewish. It'd be my decision...not someone else's.


It speaks well of you that you don't seem to understand how antisemitic racists think.
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I know how they think.

I'm not sure how to interpret your comment ..

my point is separate to the fools that the article refers to.... i'm simply suggesting that i find it strange that many people let others decide what labels are placed on them.

Many people in Australia tell me i'm italian because i waas born with an italian surname and have my father's side from italy. It has come from both the italian and non-italian community .. I'm not italian.

Likewise i don't understand how people accept the label of jewish simply because some, or even all, of their ancestors may be jewish.
 
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I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
 
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I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.

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I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.

Oh that doesn't get you off the hook at all.
 
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BlueMountain wrote:


Likewise i don't understand how people accept the label of jewish simply because some, or even all, of their ancestors may be jewish.


I'm assuming this hate group is thinking that Jewish is a racial thing, not just a religious thing. You can't choose your ethnicity.

 
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MWChapel wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Thats Irony for you.


Irony, Irony, or Alanis Morissette Irony?


The Irony cross.
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The Stern gang (ultra-revisionists in Palestine in the 40s) viewed the British as the main enemy and tried to ally with the Nazis, iirc.

Pretty gaga. But hey, extremists often do live in a warped reality.


Lets not also forget the Jewish police in NAzi service (OK there were reasons why they were collaberating), some of which went ratehr beyond trying to save thier necks.
 
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Pinook wrote:
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I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.



Oh I've tried, still am
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Halfinger wrote:
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Halfinger wrote:
I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.



Oh I've tried, still am:)


Hve you tried pissing in the font or wanking (in church) over a picture of the pope?
 
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slatersteven wrote:
Halfinger wrote:
Pinook wrote:
Halfinger wrote:
I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.



Oh I've tried, still am:)


Hve you tried pissing in the font or wanking (in church) over a picture of the pope?


Been there, done that.

Even being leading light in the Nazi party won't work, unless I marry a divorced women. Then I'll be in trouble.
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Halfinger wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Halfinger wrote:
Pinook wrote:
Halfinger wrote:
I'm still Catholic, a club I have no option of leaving. When people care about these things the problems arise.
This raises the question of just how hard you have tried to be excommunicated.



Oh I've tried, still am:)


Hve you tried pissing in the font or wanking (in church) over a picture of the pope?


Been there, done that.

Even being leading light in the Nazi party won't work, unless I marry a divorced women. Then I'll be in trouble.


Try asking a priest if he can sell you some Pedo porn.
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slatersteven wrote:
charlesf wrote:
The Stern gang (ultra-revisionists in Palestine in the 40s) viewed the British as the main enemy and tried to ally with the Nazis, iirc.

Pretty gaga. But hey, extremists often do live in a warped reality.


Lets not also forget the Jewish police in NAzi service (OK there were reasons why they were collaberating), some of which went ratehr beyond trying to save thier necks.


Yes, definitely, let's not forget that--priority A1.
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isaacc wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
charlesf wrote:
The Stern gang (ultra-revisionists in Palestine in the 40s) viewed the British as the main enemy and tried to ally with the Nazis, iirc.

Pretty gaga. But hey, extremists often do live in a warped reality.


Lets not also forget the Jewish police in NAzi service (OK there were reasons why they were collaberating), some of which went ratehr beyond trying to save thier necks.


Yes, definitely, let's not forget that--priority A1.
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Yes many Jews did collaborated for reasons designed to protect themselves or their families (that is understandable, if not noble), but some of the Jewish police units went way beyond that, they actual got praise from the Nazi’s for their zeal. Sorry but saving your life dose not have to involve doing an exceptional job.
 
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Yes many Jews did collaborated for reasons designed to protect themselves or their families (that is understandable, if not noble), but some of the Jewish police units went way beyond that, they actual got praise from the Nazi’s for their zeal. Sorry but saving your life dose not have to involve doing an exceptional job.


(1) Many members of the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst probably had not even considered themselves to be Jewish until the Nazis rolled up one morning and told them that they were.

(2) There were also those members who aided resistance organisations in the ghetto.
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Salo sila wrote:
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Yes many Jews did collaborated for reasons designed to protect themselves or their families (that is understandable, if not noble), but some of the Jewish police units went way beyond that, they actual got praise from the Nazi’s for their zeal. Sorry but saving your life dose not have to involve doing an exceptional job.


(1) Many members of the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst probably had not even considered themselves to be Jewish until the Nazis rolled up one morning and told them that they were.

(2) There were also those members who aided resistance organisations in the ghetto.


So? there were Germans who aided the allies, it does not mean there were no Germans who aided tne Nazis. Lets also not forget Ms Stien, a Jewish collaberaotr (and it wouid seem for ideological reasons). Lets also not forget Group 13 (and the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst levels of cruelty was described as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians). Whilst you may be right that many of it's members may not have consiuderd themselves Jewish, you have no evidacen that only non-Jews were active collaberators.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
So? there were Germans who aided the allies, it does not mean there were no Germans who aided tne Nazis. Lets also not forget Ms Stien, a Jewish collaberaotr (and it wouid seem for ideological reasons). Lets also not forget Group 13 (and the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst levels of cruelty was described as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians). Whilst you may be right that many of it's members may not have consiuderd themselves Jewish, you have no evidacen that only non-Jews were active collaberators.


Well, I can quote Wikipedia too, which in its German version (itself quoting the Enzyklopädie des Holocaust) tells me that only 10% of the Jewish Ordnungsdienst had close contacts to the Jewish community before the war.

That said, I'm not trying to make any sweeping statements regarding all the members of the Ordnungsdienst, just pointing out that the experiences and motivations of the Jewish Ghetto police were a tad more varied than you are seem to be making out.
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Salo sila wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
So? there were Germans who aided the allies, it does not mean there were no Germans who aided tne Nazis. Lets also not forget Ms Stien, a Jewish collaberaotr (and it wouid seem for ideological reasons). Lets also not forget Group 13 (and the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst levels of cruelty was described as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians). Whilst you may be right that many of it's members may not have consiuderd themselves Jewish, you have no evidacen that only non-Jews were active collaberators.


Well, I can quote Wikipedia too, which in its German version (itself quoting the Enzyklopädie des Holocaust) tells me that only 10% of the Jewish Ordnungsdienst had close contacts to the Jewish community before the war.

That said, I'm not trying to make any sweeping statements regarding all the members of the Ordnungsdienst, just pointing out that the experiences and motivations of the Jewish Ghetto police were a tad more varied than you are seem to be making out.


I have made no such attempt, I stated that there were not then one reason. I popinted out thatr some (not all) were collabetators with rather more dillegence then was required. I also did not just mean the Jewish police.
 
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MWChapel wrote:

I'm assuming this hate group is thinking that Jewish is a racial thing, not just a religious thing. You can't choose your ethnicity.


Of course, racists like the Hungarian guy in the OP think you can't change your ethnicity, but in practice you can, and people have done, time and time again.

 
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