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Sean Chick (Formerly Paul O'Sullivan)
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Well, I'm afraid it'll have to wait. Whatever it was, I'm sure it was better than my plan to get out of this by pretending to be mad. I mean, who would have noticed another madman round here?
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Looks like it might be the end: http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/ftopic34104-0-asc-0.php
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Hi Sean,

Yeah, I read Seth's blog post on this as well. While I think it is a shame if true (and it's still unofficial as far as I can tell), having produced two different starter sets and six full expansion waves, Hasbro did produce enough minis to pretty effectively model nearly any WW2 naval action. I know that due to my addiction to plastic crack, I have at least one of everything for War at Sea, and multiples of many, especially the lighter vessels and aircraft. Sure, I would have liked to have seen the Hiryu or the Texas make it, but I'm fairly satisfied with my collection. I do have some pictures of my "Fleet Week 2012" that I need to post soon - my collection is disturbingly large, but I know people with more.

I would say that some of the minis, especially those from earlier sets, are already getting somewhat scarce and pricy on the secondary market (e.g. eBay). If anyone out there is looking to round out their fleets, I'd suggest they not hesitate to grab what's available.
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I'm satisfied as well. Mostly I wanted just one last set so I could get the Hiryu and hopefully a few of the Pearl Harbor strike force escorts. In the end I think they went as far as they could and should and my fleet looks like a beauty when set up. Certainly it is the pride and joy of my gaming collection.

Now I might get into Axis & Allies Air Force Miniatures: Angels 20...
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I've ordered a Shapeways Hiryu and the Team Poseidon cards seem to be as "official" as we will get unless a Set 7 appears someday.
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wargamer55 wrote:
I've ordered a Shapeways Hiryu and the Team Poseidon cards seem to be as "official" as we will get unless a Set 7 appears someday.


How would you rate the quality of Shapeways? I've looked at teir stuff and it is diverse.
 
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...as I was saying, I think even without a Set 7, I will have enough ships and planes for a few decent battles...



Here's last year's fleet portrait...



and back in '09, when I just getting started...



...frankly, stopping at Wave 6 is fine by me, or at least, by my wallet!
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It would be great if they did WWI now.
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Azzarc wrote:
It would be great if they did WWI now.


I agree but I find that possibility very remote. WW2 has a much higher visibility amongst most casual wargamers and while War at Sea sales were probably fairly good, they weren't good enough (apparently) for Hasbro to continue the line. WW1 is a less popular subject, and sales projections would probably be lower. Coupling that with some of the issues that Seth pointed out in his article (especially the rising cost of such minis from China) and the outlook for such a line of WW1 minis is probably fairly dim from Hasbro's point of view.

...which is a shame, because, yes, it WOULD be great if Hasbro (or someone) would do a line of WW1 prepainted minis. I guess we will have to settle for flying dreadnoughts instead!
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gittes wrote:

How would you rate the quality of Shapeways? I've looked at teir stuff and it is diverse.


Two designers are responsible for the majority of the W@S models on Shapeways - Isoruku ('miniatures') and Matt Atkinson ('Tiny Thingamajigs') - I'd say that Matt's models have more detail than WotC's, while Isoruku's have a little less.

The main difficulty that I've found with Shapeways isn't in the 3d sculpts though - it's in the quality of the 3d printing process that Shapeways use, which leaves quite a noticable texture on the models. There are various ways around this, including putting coats of varnish on the model before painting, and scraping/sanding the texture smooth. Either way it's more prep time than painting a WotC model.

Choosing the 'White Strong & Flexible - Polished' material option helps a little here, although be aware that the polishing process does degrade the detail on the model. This is where Isoruku's less detailed sculpts make more sense, since there are less fragile parts to lose in the polishing process.
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Thanks Andrew. how long does it take to receive a model usually?
 
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My last order was 6 ships and they got it to me in 2 weeks.
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With TP and shapeways we will get closer to completion then with what a set 7 would have netted us the game is pretty close to complete.
 
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desertfox2004 wrote:
Azzarc wrote:
It would be great if they did WWI now.


I agree but I find that possibility very remote. WW2 has a much higher visibility amongst most casual wargamers and while War at Sea sales were probably fairly good, they weren't good enough (apparently) for Hasbro to continue the line. WW1 is a less popular subject, and sales projections would probably be lower. Coupling that with some of the issues that Seth pointed out in his article (especially the rising cost of such minis from China) and the outlook for such a line of WW1 minis is probably fairly dim from Hasbro's point of view.

...which is a shame, because, yes, it WOULD be great if Hasbro (or someone) would do a line of WW1 prepainted minis. I guess we will have to settle for flying dreadnoughts instead!
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Man o man it would be sweet if they would do WWI miniatures. Let's start a petition!
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Would LOVE to see WWI, but they'd definitely have to add some other sort of dynamic to the game, since aircraft carriers and subs would not have nearly the same importance as they do in the WWII game. My worst fear is that a game like that could easily descent into a simple dice contest, where you bring your battleships, cruisers, destroyers in close range and fire.

Maybe if they had tactics cards or something. Suppose there is a common deck that both you and your opponent draw from (say 5 cards per side per game), and you can use these cards at any time during the game for certain effects...might be fun, and it would put you on a sort of "card budget", where playing the right card at the right time would be a factor.

Note that I am not suggesting the game be a CDG, but rather the cards would enhance gameplay, not drive it...
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Would LOVE to see WWI, but they'd definitely have to add some other sort of dynamic to the game, since aircraft carriers and subs would not have nearly the same importance as they do in the WWII game. My worst fear is that a game like that could easily descent into a simple dice contest, where you bring your battleships, cruisers, destroyers in close range and fire.

Maybe if they had tactics cards or something. Suppose there is a common deck that both you and your opponent draw from (say 5 cards per side per game), and you can use these cards at any time during the game for certain effects...might be fun, and it would put you on a sort of "card budget", where playing the right card at the right time would be a factor.

Note that I am not suggesting the game be a CDG, but rather the cards would enhance gameplay, not drive it...


That is what I fear with my game: Across Four Oceans. I included advanced rules to expand the game with special order tactics. Also, formations are key. Too many naval wargames collapse into free for alls.
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Looks cool, are the rules available yet? I find that naval games in general are more prone to dicefests than other tactical games, partly due to there being little "terrain" to speak of. In the A&A land minis game, there are at least multiple ways in which to exploit terrain, which allows more tactics.

I use my own tabletop rules for WaS to add some depth to what is, basically, a pretty simple game. It's still pretty basic, but the rules add a bit of complexity. Here they are:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/842291/quick-easy-alternate-...

So does your game integrate operations and tactics?


 
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The rules are up for download on the game page, including tactical, operational, and advanced rules. I am currently fine tuning them and I will release a second edition of sorts before the year is out.

Take a look and if you play it I hope you enjoy it.
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Oh, I also included special rules for each nation so as to avoid a straight stat war.
 
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desertfox2004 wrote:
...as I was saying, I think even without a Set 7, I will have enough ships and planes for a few decent battles...



Here's last year's fleet portrait...



and back in '09, when I just getting started...



...frankly, stopping at Wave 6 is fine by me, or at least, by my wallet!


Hey, how much have you spent on this? No shame. I have spent way to much on way to many things.
 
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